Donald Trump Says He Pleaded The Fifth In Deposition With New York Attorney General

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  1. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. You don't deny that he lies all the time and simply state that because of that fact, he shouldn't speak. What does that say about you and your boy?
     
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    Yeh, who needs a trial anyway, just grab a rope!
    What will you do when its your turn, with that hang em high style justice? Maybe for a parking ticket?
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    These statements make zero logical sense and have nothing to do with what I said.
    You seem to ignore that someone has already checked the evidence to come to a belief that a fact is truly a fact. I didn't think I would have to explain that.
    I also believe that Trump has believed that the election was "stolen", "rigged" and so on and has presented evidence to prove his point and every court has measured and weighed that evidence and found it more than wanting.
    My evidence is stonger than his.
    Proves my point about reality
    Science backs me up on all vaccines yet there are still some that "do their own research" and come to the wrong conclusions. I can't help that. People (like you) aren't entitled to your own facts. That's simply a different reality.
    Most of this post is incoherent but the bolded sentence is........odd. Do you have an example of such a thing happening?
    That's some Orwellian thinking right there
    I haven't demanded anyone to agree with me. All I have said is that I belive in facts and Trump followers do not.
     
  4. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    well you have president senile violating the right to our body, and this guy with no respect for the very process he now relies upon, and these are the people that we have 'representing' us.
     
  5. Kokomojojo

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    No science did not,
    Vaccines HERE
    c19 is a case of massive data fraud, yes a different reality in unsupported yet alleged 'fact'.
     
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    yeah it must be everyone else and not you that's the problem.
    I think you just want to assert your beliefs as fact that's called self centeredness
    what courts looked at the evidence if they did there would be a record of it as I recall they refused on the basis of standing. Meaning they never even bothered looking at evidence they didn't get that far. You can't sue someone if there is no damage and before the election stolen or otherwise there couldn't have been any damage. The time to sue would be after.
    again I'd have to ask what evidence? You can't say the courts finding his evidence not enough because that didn't happen he was dismissed on standing before they ever even looked at evidence.
    seems you would come to this conclusion no matter what. Again that's called self centeredness.
    the science you cherry pick Maybe. If anything if we look at science as a whole it suggests that it's inconclusive. So called the vaccines May reduce symptoms but they don't really produce any antibodies for the virus. Reality shows loads of people infected after being vaccinated. And I'm not talking like a 98% defective rate like a typical vaccine maybe 50/50.

    I think what I just pointed out there is the heart of this dishonesty. Because no vaccine has a perfect effectiveness rate therefore effectiveness rates don't matter. That was often pointed out as an excuse for why so many people that were vaccinated still got the virus. The people that pulled that sort of crap knew it was dishonest they just did it anyway because they had no other argument to give.

    So my position is based on facts as well it's just I've come to a different conclusion than you.
    well allow me to simplify it for you.

    You say people are outside of reality because you flunk at arguing. So it has to be a problem with everyone else and not you.
    not off the top of my head nor do I need to present an example of such a thing happening.

    If you believe what is popular is there for correct then you aren't rational.
    well it's true.

    For example you can take a thousand votes on whether or not the Earth is flat and if you win 99.9% of the time every time it won't mean the Earth is flat.

    Truth is not democracy so popularity has zero effect on it.
    Well technically no. We were just insulted them and said everyone that doesn't is delusional.

    That it's arrogance and self-centeredness to cover up incompetence.

    If you can't convince people with your arguments you automatically judge everyone and disagrees with you as irrational you don't think for a second that maybe you're wrong.

    You can't possibly be, because of self-centeredness.

    It's just like talking to Christians about any various things they don't believe in it's wrong because they think they're right even if you don't. Even if they can't prove it just like you.
     
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    Why do you think he's 'my boy?' Because Im not seething with mind-altering hatred at the mention of his name? I'll always take the 'just leave us alone' candidate over the control freaks.

    As far as the govt lying to us goes, Trump's are pretty benign. Or are you under the impression your team or w/e is honest?
     
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    I agree with you, but this isn’t about whether it was smart for trump to take the fifth. It was.

    This is about his own words - what he said about taking the fifth - and how his own words make him look stupid. That’s funny.
     
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    The weird worshipers believe their object of veneration is above the law. Their paranoid notion that there is a vast conspiracy against the Loser (like the one that stole his unexplained "Landslide!", without a single suspect) is in denial of what is being exposed by legal recourse. When asked why the Loser pleasured himself for hours watching his goons savage outnumbered police at the Capitol while his family, minions, media cheerleaders, and others pleaded with him to call them off, they rage but cannot contrive a rational response.

    Yes, authorities are pursuing a number of investigations into illegalities, whether derived from the sworn testimoy of Republican officeholders, Trump regime insiders, or informants.

    Understandably, he's reaching for the ketchup.

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    To be fair he has been known to change his mind in mid-sentence. Many times. Remember his classic defending his wall and admitting the the climbers could use ropes to climb down in one sentence? A personal favorite.
     
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    Which was what? Sit there and simply lie, or claim she didn't recall, and otherwise play a silly game? That's the integrity that you were hoping to see? Laughable.
     
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    I suppose this means you couldn't trust mr Biden.... But who's counting...
     
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    The public record.

    "The secret war

    The FBI placed citizens under surveillance. Surrounded them with agents, penetrated their organizations with a network of informers, wired their offices and homes, gathered confidential information on their plans and activities, and then secretly turned around and used its agents, informers, and information to "expose, disrupt, discredit, or otherwise neutralize" dissent." THE LAWLESS STATE, The Crimes of the U.S. Intelligence Agencies, Morton H. Halperin, Jerry J. Bermin, Robert L. Borosage, and Christine M. Marwick, Penguin Books, NY, 1977. p. 124.

    "The FBI worked to create violent confrontations between factions on the radical left. The bureau was prepared in this case to commit violent acts itself. In New York, agents set cars on fire with "Molotov cocktails," making it appear that one faction was attacking another. FBI agents conducted at least five such bombings in 1973 and 1974." THE LAWLESS STATE, The Crimes of the U.S. Intelligence Agencies, Morton H. Halperin, Jerry J. Bermin, Robert L. Borosage, and Christine M. Marwick, Penguin Books, NY, 1977. p. 125.
     
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    No I disagreed with him on that point. Trump is not the brightest bulb when it comes to the Constitution. It's outside his lane of expertise. But throughout history you'll find politicians (as well as John Does) changing their minds on matters. Why are you surprised/confused about this?
     
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    I get that. I can comiserate with him though, because I used to have the same faulty opinion that someone pleading the 5th automatically suggested their guilt. Now I have grown to know better.

    Mr Trump would do well to work on his inner dialog skills. He shouldn't say everything he thinks into the public record, because often, as time passes, he may have to change his opinion. This was a perfect example.
     
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    Nobody is surprised to see Trump changing his mind when it suits him. I suppose what surprises me is the fact that it isn’t costing him any credibility with his supporters. But perhaps I should be surprised that the sheep are blindly following the Shepard.
     
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    What did she lie about? With sources not your opinion

    I said that was the minimum, just sitting there refusing to answer anything isn’t what I expect from our public servants receiving taxpayer dollars. Republicans would have once agreed with this but now there is a cult in town.
     
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    Right, a worldwide conspiracy to commit data fraud for no apparent reason. That makes sense.
     
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    are you kidding?
    There is no worldwide conspiracy necessary to commit data fraud.
    It does however bring up the question how come the only place you can find contrary information about the vax is 'other countries' as in outside the US?
     
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    In this case it's just you that's the problem
    I've given you examples of of facts and you have disputed none yet you call me self centered. Odd
    Again, an illogical statement that has nothing to do with the statement I made but, oh, by the way, the Supreme Court tossed his claims also. No court wanted to waste time on nonsense.
    Right, I came to the same conclusion as the courts and I'm self centered. You believe Trump has a case and are not. What's wrong with this picture.
    No, your position is not based on facts and, in fact, it is you that is cherry picking. The fact is the vaccine was produced for the original strain of the virus. You don't see anyone getting that anymore, do you. We are on what varient now? The 8th? 10th? I don't know but the fact remains that the vaccine still works against them, just not as well as the one it was made for. This is also the difference between this virus and others that have vaccines. Yes, you have come to a different conclusion and it is wrong. It's that simple.
    No, I say people are given facts and deny them (like you and the vaccine) because they insist they have the correct facts and they don't. That's not my problem, that's on them.
    How conveniet and self centered of you. You make a bold statement and when asked to show proof you say you don't have to.
    This sentence doesn't make sense. I don't know where you're from but I honestly don't think English is your first language. Your sentences are grammatically wrong so they don't make sense.
    Facts are truth and aren't proven by a democratic vote like you insist.
    I give arguments based on facts. I HAVE been proven wrong on occasion and have conceded to the better argument but Trumpers (which is what I made my statement about) never admit to being wrong when presented with facts because they always have "alternative facts" which are BS.
     
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    What guilt? The guilt I've been waiting almost SEVEN YEARS for you guys to show?

    I'm defending his rights under the Constitution. You should too.
     
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    Always have, always do and always will. More than you can say for tRaitor tRump.
     
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    You certainly are not with Trump.
     
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