If Trump Were To Be The Nominee In 2024

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  1. independentthinker

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    How could Democrats campaign against him effectively? Normally, both parties try to find dirt on the other nominee and run negative ads against them. Most Democrats won't need campaign ads to convince them which way to vote and neither will most on the right. So, we're mostly aiming at Independents and maybe a few diehard RINOS.

    Since all of Trump's worst laundry has already been aired time and time again and the left still couldn't get him with anything (hence why he was able to become the nominee) how do Democrats campaign against Trump effectively? Do you run ads regurgitating the same ole same ole which didn't get Trump? Do Independents really want to hear that same stuff brought up over and over and over again? Would that same stuff repeated at infinitum change anyone's minds on which way to vote? How do you run negative ads against a man who has had nothing but negative ads run against him for what would be eight years and still survived to become the 2024 nominee? Sure, you can run the negative ads but will they actually change anyone's minds on who to vote for? Would any of the dirt be any kind of new revelation?
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    If Trump isn't running on getting us Universal Healthcare so business and employees can keep more of their money, ending prohibition, or federally guaranteeing woman's rights then he will lose again.

    Bidens got the chips act to return chip manufacting to America. What's his plan? Run on Qanon grooming conspiracies theories?

    What's his plan with Putin? Cause Bidens handled that swimmingly.
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Democrats need another crisis to take advantage of. National Security threats is the new one. However, it's been the miscommunication problem that will make it difficult for them. They lost their messaging edge.
     
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    Holy crap. Man, you really need to quit drinking the kool aid.
     
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    My first question is, why would trump run again? What possible purpose does him running again do other than to further advance democrats and their potential for staying in power? And isn't that really why democrats have so publicly trotted him back out again?

    It isn't like their policy or their agenda have done anything positive for folks. So, why would anyone besides democrats want trump to run again?
     
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    independentthinker Well-Known Member

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    The cold hard truth is that BOTH sides have degenerated into a winner take all strategy of winning an election by .1% and using that win to cram your policies down the throats of the 100%. And, in the last few years, again, BOTH parties are wanting a war because both sides think they can win a war against the other side and to the victor goes the spoils because the other side will be defeated and then they can cram their policies down the throats of the 100%. Civility wasn't giving either side what they wanted - total and complete domination over everything and everyone. Since BOTH sides believe they can win this war then it's worth having.
     
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    I don't get the relevance.
    That advise can go right back to your OP.

    If you think Trumps the Teflon Don, it's YOU that needs to put down the koolaid.
    His supporters are the only ones who think he can do no wrong, and there are simply not enough people with that sort of TDS to get him elected again, let alone a primary nomination.

    The man's so incompetent he let himself get raided for what appears to be mishandling classified materials he could have properly declassified from the get go. But what ever.
     
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    it's a pretty bold assumption to assume Trump's worst dirt is already out.
     
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    What possible purpose does it serve? Do you not know this man at all? How is that even possible after he was president for four years?

    He would and will run because of his ego, plain and simple. Barring some kind of change in his health, or if he's incarcerated, he WILL run again, so that he can be on the biggest stage in front of everyone receiving all their adoration and attention again. That's all that he wants. It's his oxygen.
     
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    Ummmmm, the thread is here because Trump is far ahead of everyone else in polling and even Cheney and the DOJ seem to think it is highly unlikely Trump will be jailed or stopped from running. That's not kool aid talking. That's just the facts.
     
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    Polling data, now that's laughable, and you can ask Hillary about that.
     
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    LOL. OK then. Well, we do know that Democrats will stop at nothing.
     
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    When competing you suggest they stop less then all the way?
     
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    at least you know.
     
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    I wouldn’t worry about Trump 2024. Independents have never liked the guy and being the Republican Party is the smaller of the two major parties, the GOP must win the independent vote or lose the election. Trump isn’t about to win independents. 46% of independents voted for Trump in 2016 when independents viewed Trump at a 57% unfavorable rating. Only 41% of independents voted for Trump in 2020 with Trump having a 60% unfavorable rating among independents.


    The democrats screwed up in 2016 nominating Clinton which independents disliked more than Trump back then. That cost them the election. It seems the Democrats learned their lesson for 2020 by nominating Biden, someone who independents liked at the time while Trump was still disliked enabling Biden to win the independent vote 54-41 over Trump.


    If Trump were to run in 2024, I highly doubt he will. But if he were, as long as the Democrats don’t go nominating someone who is disliked more than Trump by independents, ALA 2016 with Hillary. Trump loses as he can’t attract the independent vote. No negative attack ads needed by the Democrats. Trump's obnoxious, uncouth, rude personality along with his very unpresidential behavior will suffice as that is why independents refused to vote for him in 2020.
     
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    Why will he be running? As JT said, his oversized ego will not allow him to not run. Plus, he LOVES the adoration of his fans. He knows that he has to stay relevant to remain the subject of their adoration, he can't stay relevant without running for president. Just being king maker is not good enough, because Trump would NEVER play second fiddle to anyone else.
     
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    This problem was already solved: make **** up.
     
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    Seriously? I'm not talking about close polls. There are no close polls. Trump is very far ahead of everyone else to be the nominee.
     
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    So, you admit that their abuse of power for political purposes knows no bounds.
     
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    Yea right, Trump represents the GOP and himself, whom his supporters love. Where have you been?
    Trying to blame democrats is just wilful ignorance. I need to put the koolaid down? :no:

    He would run again cause listen to the useful idiots who would support him even if he metephoricly shot someone on fifth avenue. It's not all Trump, he's one person who puts his pants on one leg at a time like the rest of us. It's all the putin apologists, woman hating, wall building bigots who think he can turn this nation to the next Russia.
     
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    I told you the winning formula, end prohibition, uhc and federally gurenteed woman's rights.
     
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    I don't know. Right now Trump is ahead of Biden in 2024 polling. As much as independents hate Trump, they also hate Democratic socialism, which seems to include Biden.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html
     
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    Certain groups have been digging long enough and sniffing enough. If crimes have been committed, there is no way anyone would have delayed in making it public.

    Trump has always ridden that fine line, long, long before 2016. For the things he was involved in that went over the line, he was penalized for.
     
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    Those are your particular wants, not everybody's.
     
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    No one denies women have rights. They just don't have the right to murder, just as men do not have the right to murder.
     

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