The REAL reason transgender groomers are targeting America's children

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  1. Junkieturtle

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    I believe the success of gender surgery is going to be on a case-by-case basis. You have no standing to make a blanket claim that it does nothing to make a person happier. You're doing so because you're trying to shoehorn a complex issue into a simplified label of "mental illness" and you fail at it because you're doing so out of prejudice and derision instead of any kind of objective basis.

    Suicide rates of transgender people in general are higher, whether they transition or not. You don't think a society that rejects them as abominations and mentally ill people in need of correction might have just a little to do with that?
     
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    There is nothing wrong with calling it marriage because marriage is not a religious term.

    You're thinking of holy matrimony.

    Since the legal institution of marriage has nothing to do with religion, and the government has no power to compel a church or religion to perform holy matrimony, there is simply no need for a name change. You just need to start using the correct terms to identify what you actually mean.
     
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    It seems by your standard mental illness is just perception and no one really is. If you think you’re 3 people, you’re just fine. It’s EVERYONE ELSE that’s the problem? So is being obese everyone else’s problem too? How about bipolar? Or is it only a mental illness if the person inflicted, admits it?

    You can’t blame people for questioning the mental stability of a man who thinks he’s a woman, takes loads of drugs to change his biology and has loads of plastic surgery. It’s no different than someone who thinks he’s a cat and has loads of plastic surgery to look like one. It’s a mental illness.
     
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    Some of us are neither, but we want to accommodate both. Why can't some religious types be more supportive of people with gender concerns?
     
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    Mental illnesses in many cases are not physically detectable so your diagnosis actually is based largely on perception of your symptoms, both by yourself and by your doctor.

    And no different than when a person thinks there's a man in the sky who created everything and loves everyone and if he prays hard enough and gives enough of his money in church, that man in the sky will alter cause and effect to his or her benefit.
     
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    Nope, its still marriage.
     
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    Happy people dont kill themselves junkieturtle and society bends over backwards to accommodate them. Anyone who claims otherwise is lying to themselves.
     
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    So are you saying that when a person isn't happy, they are mentally ill? Because there are many reasons a person may be unhappy...such as being stigmatized by a prejudicial society.
     
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    Well, not exactly. We have to teach students about what adherents to different religions believe if we're teaching history and civics. We have to teach about communism, socialism and capitalism, too.
    Schools are reacting to what students bring to the table, just as they do to what your children bring to school from your family. Translation: your kid is not being encouraged to change gender.

    It would be nice if you criticized public schools for where they fall short instead of confusing the need for reform with charges that aren't true.
     
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    If an adult ( especially one that I do not know) wants to delude themselves and maim their body etc., that is not my business, and I could not possibly care less if they opt to go that route. Unfortunately, we are not always talking about adults.

    The OP specifically is about young children and the groomers that are encouraging them to chemically halt puberty and begin the process of trying to change their gender including surgery at shockingly young ages. That is an entirely different story altogether, and it really does need to stop. NOW.
     
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    Marriage is what God ordained at creation between Adam and Eve between one man and one woman. There was no Steve for Adam them. Homosexual relationships are an abomination against God and the marriage He ordained at creation
     
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    Thanks for the the thread back on topic. Well said.
     
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    Groomers and strictly non-groomers do not distinguish between sex and gender.
    Sex is the set of characteristics that are biologically defined, where gender is a social construct. :)

    Both are right, except for rejecting the opposite definition.
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    God said in the Holy Quran to the people of Lot: "For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds."
    --> https://myislam.org/surah-al-araf/ayat-81/
     
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    Nothing about marriage, sorry.
     
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    Do you follow EVERYTHING that is in the Bible? No you do not. Therefore you’re using the Bible and this god of yours as a excuse for your bigotry.
     
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    I think the article is very accurate in describing this phenomenon. There are no genuine transgenders- only genuine pretenders who have taken an obsession as far as possible to convince themselves it's real. A society that supports that delusion does itself great harm; it is already difficult enough for an individual to find and understand themselves given all the pressures society imposes on them; to begin making delusions an acceptable condition to be actively pursued- is virtually insane, and self destructive. Society is making a great mistake in attempting to pretend this is normal, and the trans process cures resolves some kind of genetic accident.

    When people are uncomfortable in dealing with some aspect of life, it's fairly normal to seek an answer that allows you to not face up to it. For example, in many situations maturity is having the strength and capacity to to cope; immaturity is the lack of that. While all immature people aren't alcoholics- all alcoholics are immature; they drink to insulate themselves from what they aren't able to handle. Such coping mechanisms don't solve problems, they bury them- and create new, often greater problems of their own. I look at some of the transgenders, like Rachel Levine- and I see a desperate person, who despite their extreme indulgence- are still deeply troubled, and having taken the irreversible steps- always will be. No chance now of ever becoming a whole person.
    The article mentioned the high levels of suicides in this group, which is confirmation of that condition.
     
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    Public schools aren't the problem.
     
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    I don't recall saying anything about schools.
     
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    Didn't say you did, but others have.
     
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    Perhaps you should have directed that reply to them instead.
     
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    Then, who is it that you are accusing of this "grooming" you complain about?

    This IS an issue that Republicans regularly accuse public school teachers of carrying out.

    And, no other organization has regular access to children. And, that would be required, right?
     

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