The REAL reason transgender groomers are targeting America's children

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  1. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For starters, the only thing I have said in this thread is to remind another poster that was talking about adults that the OP was talking about kids.

    The article in the OP is directed specifically at gender activists, and while it mentions schools, it is but one of many avenues that is discussed. I am sure that some schools do contain gender activists, but those people most certainly do NOT comprise the majority of gender activists.

    I happen to have a semi-personal experience with gender activism. It was a good friend of mine's brother and sister in law's child whom I know as a pretty good acquaintance. It occurred about 6 years ago. They have a daughter whom has always had pretty serious issues with depression. When she was 13 she told her parents that she was gay. They accepted that just fine. Soon after, she told her parents that she was a man. Unbeknownst to them, someone she knew had put her in touch with a gender grooming psychiatrist, and she broke this news to her parents after a few sessions that they did NOT know she was attending. This psychiatrist called the parents and told them that they needed to start calling her by her boy name and they refused. This psychiatrist was also very pushy about her needing to go on puberty blockers /testosterone ASAP and they refused that as well. The parents were very obstinate, and this groomer/psychiatrist accused them of child abuse.

    Long story short, the girl stopped pursuing this a year or so later, and she currently is in college dating a man. She obviously has some serious sexual proclivity issues to work through, and I would by no means claim that she is not still a troubled child that still suffers from deression, but I would say that it is a damned good thing that she did not go forward with the puberty blockers because in no manner, shape, or form does she still think that she is a man. That person that called her parents child abusers and tried to strong arm them into starting puberty blockers should have their license revoked.

    These types of things should not be encouraged for children and this is happening more than most of us realize. They are not prepared to make such a life-altering decision at that age.
     
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    Then who are you referring to when you say “groomers”? Do you not include teachers when you say “groomers”?
     
  3. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    See above.
     
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    So you aren’t someone who makes a55 hole sweeping generalizations of teachers being groomers. Glad to know.
     
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    The notion that schools are causing those actions is just plain false.

    What is being labeled by the Republicans as "grooming" or "gender activism" is NO MORE than recognizing the FACT that sexuality comes as a spectrum, and that humans of all shapes and sizes must be respected.

    Turning THAT into some sort of claim that those who are pro-education want teachers to be coaching kids to change their bodies is just plain political BS.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It seems that you keep arguing against what you had hoped that I said. Please stop falsely putting an argument into my mouth because I have not said that "schools" are causing anything.

    As far as your description of gender activism, you seem confused between the terms sexuality and gender. Those are two different things. Of course sexuality is a spectrum. Gender? That is a bit more debatable. One thing is for certain, "gender activism" is NOT about recognizing that sexuality is a spectrum which would be dealing with hetero vs homosexual.

    Truthfully, I am not that interested in this topic. I made one little comment to another poster that was answering as if the discussion were about adults when in this thread it is about kids and I corrected that misunderstanding. Beyond that, this is not really a topic that I am all that interested in.
     
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    Where is the issue coming up OTHER than in schools. You didn't say schools, but as I asked earlier if it isn't the schools, then who is doing the "grooming", etc.?
    The point is that it isn't just hetero vs. homosexual. It's LGBTQ for solid biological reasons. The thing is, there are a number of contributors within ones body, and while it is common for them to line up in one of two patterns (at least more or less), there is nothing to prevent other alignments.

    Besides, lets remember that Republicans are writing laws that say teachers can not even admit that homosexuality exists - or prosecution can ensue.
    As noted in the news all across the nation, we have 5th graders experimenting with their sexuality to the point that they are getting pregnant.

    So, it definitely SHOULD be about kids - how they get solid, truthful information about sexuality, rather than depending on sources such as friends and the internet, what their options are when they get pregnant at an age where childbirth is exceptionally risky, etc.
     
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    A lot of grooming happens on TikTok.

    But here is an interesting document:

    "Queer All School Year"

    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22090184/lausd-source-documents.pdf
     
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    So, how do you plan on opposing Tik Tok, especially if you make it illegal to even mention the existence of the spectrum of sexuality?


    That doc sounds like a good way to cause the hate to be toned down and to cause people to feel good about the unchangeable aspects of who they are.
     
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    To me it sounds like a good way to make children attribute their problems to being transgender and groom them to change their gender.

    The world's largest gender clinic has been closed down as a danger to children and is being sued by 1000 families for ruining their children's lives. I look forward to the day every gender clinic is sued out of existence.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I answered that question.

    Why dont you reply to what I said in that reply?

    I am sorry, it is as if you are trying very hard to put words into my mouth so that you can argue against the word you just put into my mouth. I am not interested. Sincerely. If you take issue with something I have said then by all means argue against it. I dont really care about this subject and I certainly am not interested in arguing your strawman where you argue against a point that I have not raised.
     
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    You keep saying "grooming". But, there is no indication that is possible, nor is there evidence that anyone is trying to do that.

    I fully believe that there could be clinics that are highly abusive. After all, we see medical malpractice happening, we see attempts to change kids into heterosexual orientation, and other such horrors.

    But, that doesn't have anything to do with legislation that threatens legal action if a teacher discusses general factual information concerning LGBTQ. And, those laws even threaten teachers who might answer direct questions with factual answers.
     
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    Sorry for disturbing you.

    But, I don't see this "grooming" thing being addressed by Republican law other than in schools, where teachers and school districts are being threatened.

    I know some have mentioned TikTok and other social sites, but that is NOT what Republicans are going after. Republicans ARE going after teachers.
     
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    ‘You All Got Caught With Your Sparkly Panties Down:’ Mom Wrecks School Board Over Halloween Drag Show.

    'One outraged mother, Brittany Mayer, accused the Encinitas Unified School District school board members of “pimping out” the district’s children to a transgender surgical facility and a 21-and-over gay bar, apparent sponsors of the event.'

    Parents have had enough with the schools perving on the children.

    “What is it about a grown man costumed in a sparkly bra with augmented boobs busting out, a leather miniskirt barely covering his twerking ass with tuck tape on his front while spreading his fish-netted legs as he writhes on the ground, grinding his groin next to a minor, ‘family-friendly?’” Mayer slammed the school board, video shows.'

    “You all got caught with your sparkly panties down,” the outraged mother continued, demanding an explanation and an apology from each member. “And while we have a culture that has a massive problem with child porn, with sex trafficking — you, a little school district, board of adults, made the decision to feature an event to hyper-sexualize young children.”

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    They won't apologize they will attack the mother.

    'There’s a word for that, which Twitter’s current management doesn’t allow its users to say': OK, Groomer: Phrase Calling Out Predators Banned on Twitter.

    The left is losing its war on parents.
     
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    Of course.

    But just as in that religion, we're not obliged to play along. Just as when a stranger in your orbit gives thanks for their meal, you're not obliged to participate. Just as when a religious stranger asks you to refer to their god as real, you naturally would not. You would not play along with a fantasy you don't share, for many reasons. You would also rightly assume that anyone who required you to play along, is an unpleasant narcissist.
     
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    Unless they demand you play along, of course. Then it does impact you.
     
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    And there are public schools which should be entirely neutral, given the diversity of the taxpayers who fund them.

    ALL ideologies should be excluded from public education.
     
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    Literally no one has “demanded” I play along. So it stands that it doesn’t impact me in any way shape or form.
     
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    Okay, well good for you. If you've never had someone correct you - ask in a very 'assertive' fashion that you adhere to some pronoun or whatever, then you've been luckier than I have. Either that, or you don't get out much.
     
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    Yes, because heaven forbid parents actually become responsible for what their kids do on their phones.
     
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    I get out plenty. Given the low percent of people who are trans It’s more likely you’re full of crap.
     
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    What we do not have room for is grown ass adults telling little children in grade school that they may not be the right sex. Adults doing this should be in a cage, never in a classroom. It is mind rape and nearly the same thing as pedophilia.
     
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    I know of nothing like that happening.

    This is purely a trumped up charge that helps Republicans go after education.
     
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    Which is why LibsOfTikTok is getting kicked off Twitter.... for exposing dozens of progressive teachers bragging about transing the kids on Tik-Tok. You can deny it is happening if you ban conservatives from proving that it is happening. It is considered a hate crime by the left for a conservative to show progressives bragging about transing the kids. C L O W N.... W O R L D.......
     
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    TikTok isn't even American, and suggesting it describes the political point of view of Dems is just plain stupid.

    Nobody is "transing" the kids. That's not even possible.
     

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