Canadian police: 10 dead, 15 injured from stabbings

So basically guns are not a need but a want. Knives are needed to cut your meat and as you said, guns are just a hobby. I also want a Lamborghini.

 

So far, one dollar's worth of gasoline(1) has proven to be deadlier than any type of firearm.

A determined killer who couldn't find a gun to kill his ex-girlfriend simply did what any determined killer would do if and when guns become harder to acquire.

He made a simple, easy to acquire WMD that killed far more people than any firearm. The crude and easily made WMDs available to determined mass killers are innumerable. Some are Molotov Cocktails, "dirty" bombs, simple home-made bombs, Anthrax and other lethal Bio-Chem concoctions; the list of far more lethal WMDs is endless.

The lesson should be clear to any rational and objective individual. No number of moronic gun control laws is going to stop a determined killer as criminals, by definition, do not obey laws.

We should be focusing on making mental health care more assessable and affordable in order to detect and treat determined killers before they strike.

Thanks,





(1) "Happy Land fire"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Land_fire

EXCERPT "González went to an Amoco gas station, then returned to the establishment with a plastic container with $1 worth of gasoline.[2][4] He spread the fuel at the base of a staircase, the only access into the club, and then ignited the gasoline.[5]

Eighty-seven people died in the resulting fire."CONTINUED

 

Ok, we just everyone to turn their knives in and we can be like country X, Y and Z and no one will die! It’s just that simple, yes?

 

I can get you a much better deal on a gun than a Lamborghini. Guns may not be a NEED... but, then again, VOTING isn't a NEED either. Like owning a firearm... its a RIGHT.

 

Yet, no one used a firearm to protect themselves and 10 people were killed and 15 we're wounded.

 

Gun control happened.

 

It's not a right either. It's illegal for a reason.

 

No difference in outcome to similar events in the US where many carry a gun.

10 deaths and 15 wounded in 13 different crime scenes. Hardly a high "success" rate per crime scene. Undoubtedly if the murderers used guns that "success" rate would have been a lot higher

 

How many people died to knives in Rwanda.

 

These dudes went into people's homes and murdered and injured them, with knives. If the Canadian government hadn't revoked the right of self defense, most of these deaths and injuries wouldn't have occurred. Had these two guys tried this in the states, their asses would have been dead long before they caused this much carnage.

 

Owning a firearm is a right clearly contained in the Bill of Rights... Amendment 2. Owning a gun is clearly legal as a result. In Heller v US the Supreme Court ruled that individual states could regulate guns in a decision quite similar to the recent decision about ROE. Some states are quite restrictive (NY, MA, NJ, etc.), others are very open and free (TX, MO, etc).States vary in the details, but gun ownership is legal everywhere. Its right there in the Constitution.

 

So you think knives are more deadly than guns, interesting. Maybe you should disarm your military and give them all a kitchen knife, see how they do against Somalis with ak47s

 

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This is not USA hello. It's Canada. Smfh

 

Oh... I heard about your dictator. A Canadian trucker passed by here and filled us in. My condolences.

 

That's a good point. Disarming your military is just as counterproductive as disarming your civilians.

In both cases, each group is less able to protect itself from violent people.

In the case of Rwanda, about a million people were killed, hundreds of thousands were raped....because they didn't have the means to defend themselves from their attackers.

The governments and the militia were able to kill and rape with impunity.

Why?

Because they could not defend themselves.

 

Wrong. In 16 million violent crimes in 2013 - 2015, only in 1.1% of those crimes was a gun drawn for self defense.
https://www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable17.pdf

Secondly, the attacks took place in a fishing and hunting community. Many of the victims would have had access to guns. Only in the make believe world do victims have easy access to their guns at all times.

 

Trudy is a racist plus I'm UK actually

 

You mean like in the world where we are allowed to not just own firearms but also to carry them?

That's the world I live in.

Canada not so much.

Canada doesn't allow you to carry a firearm, and requires them to be made inaccessibly stored in your home. You can't have a firearm readily accessible in Canada, "hunting" community or not.

https://nfa.ca/safe-and-legal-storage-of-non-restricted-firearms/

Another failed argument from the people who want to make this the case in the US.

 

60 million would have died if they had guns

 

I doubt that

 

The government and militia did have guns. Oh and grenades.

The civilians didn't.

That's why Rwanda happened in the first place.

 

Not to mention that even if they have guns, they have to be made inoperable when stored.

http://www.firearms-safety-course.c...restricted/storage-of-non-restricted-firearms

STORAGE OF NON-RESTRICTED FIREARMS5. (1) An individual may store a non-restricted firearm only if

(a) it is unloaded;

(b) it is

(i) rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device,

(ii) rendered inoperable by the removal of the bolt or bolt-carrier, or

(iii) stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into; and

(c) it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into.

(2) Paragraph

(1)(b) does not apply to any individual who stores a non-restricted firearm temporarily if the individual reasonably requires it for the control of predators or other animals in a place where it may be discharged in accordance with all applicable Acts of Parliament and of the legislature of a province, regulations made under such Acts, and municipal by-laws.

(3) Paragraphs (1)(b) and (c) do not apply to an individual who stores a non-restricted firearm in a location that is in a remote wilderness area that is not subject to any visible or otherwise reasonably ascertainable use incompatible with hunting.

 

In 16 million violent crimes in 2013 - 2015, only in 1.1% of those crimes was a gun drawn for self defense.

 

you are just guessing here. guns being used tend to attract lots more official attention than knives

 

that's speculation given many cases, there is no record because nothing happens. I stopped at least two crimes by merely displaying a firearm. That was never mentioned in the police reports