Graham proposes 15-week abortion bill, dividing Republicans ahead of midterm elections

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  1. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Where did you see the word "get"?
     
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    The majority most certainly do not want a woman to be able to abort a child in month 9, unless there are health concerns. I think that's why Graham did this, he wants the left on record, which even most women oppose.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    The vast majority of self defence excuses are for social economic reasons.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    If at month 9 it's gonna cost 100 grand a day to keep the baby on life support, that's a social economic excuse to terminate isn't it.
     
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    And that's why I said unless there is a health concern. How many of the 916,416 abortions qualified for your example? 93% of abortions are done in the first trimester, the argument is rather ridiculous. There's a comprise but the dems nor reps, care to do it and want states to have the control. This is why there has never been a federal law.
     
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    Sure, it would be, but the vast majority of women who get abortions aren't facing anything nearly so dire or dramatic. Most abortions happen because of the inconvenience that this developing person is causing or going to cause the woman. It's absolutely vile to destroy a human life over the trivial reasons most women have for doing it.
     
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    You guys sure about it not being common...Heard there'd been an uptick with crack and meth babies being born requiring such measures. Don't think its a good idea to have addicts mothers required to carry to term. At least till we get a UHC in place to monitor their progress.
     
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    That's the problem: a decent government should offer solutions to those women.
    Then ... there are rare extreme cases with psychological problems.
    I wouldn't criminalize those women. They need some help, not to be sent to a prison.
     
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    Until you're able to quantify that with an actual source, it's difficult to lend the voices you heard much credence.
     
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    Like what? "Don't be such a petty b*tch that's willing to murder a baby rather than get a stretch mark?"
     
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    Addicts arnt the most responsible people.
    They are doing it a favor, instead they will be born to someone more responsible who wants it.
     
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    100% of Addicts, let's start there.
     
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    No, they're not "doing it a favor". They're killing it. They would give it up for adoption "to someone more responsible who wants it" if they wanted to "do it a favor".
     
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    100% of addicts ... what? Are pregnant? Doubt.
     
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    So, your title and your OP content don't agree. Meaning that you didn't demonstrate how Graham's bill "divided" republicans. Can we just call this a dead thread because it doesn't conform to the new thread creation rule?
     
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    Graham is an idiot. Didn't someone tell him the SC return the issue back to States, where it belongs?
     
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    It will have a lifetime of debilitating problems, where as if it's aborted it can find another vessel to be born to a loving mother with a family...that's a favor in my opinion.

    People don't often adopt children like that and treat them well. It's usually for the money, and they abuse them anyway. Takes alot more patience then most people anticipate.
     
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    That are forced to carry to term will have children with debilitating conditions. To make it easier "do the numbers".
    Expect the worst hope for the best..if it's less, it's a good thing, but to better help you understand the mistake of forcing addicts to carry to term, assume 100% of them that have children will require expensive medical care for the rest of their lives.
     
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    So will kids born to liberals, but the solution isn't to just kill them.
     
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    Then why are they making more money than conservative voters on average? Are you saying you can't out perform a liberal?

    Kids born to addicts DON'T make more on average, so you have to find a comparison that matches their income and cost to the government...and that would be the average conservative voter. Conservatives love them some disability.
     
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    I heard right. According to a University Study, most (2/3rds) do not.

    https://www.ansirh.org/research/res...earn-theyre-pregnant-past-six-weeks-gestation
     
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    Blah blah blah.

    Roe needed tightening up, but it worked well for 50 years, it granted a woman's right to abortion for 50 years, and then the court took that right away.

    This will be noted during the elections in November. Women registering to vote are up, way up in some states.

    The registrations surged after the Alito leak on Dobbs, and even greater after Dobbs decision.

    And trust me, we do not give a damn what the court's 'reason' was.


    morewomenregistering2vote.jpg
     
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    Because it supports abortion up to 15 weeks, and most repubs want the issue dealt with at the state level, they do not want a federal law on the subject, that's why.

    I should have thought that was obvious.
     
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    HMm.. something not noted in the article that was the center of your OP. Your assertions aside, your feelz aside, your thread doesn't create the narrative you proposed in your thread title.
     

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