Biden's speech worked: Nearly 6 in 10 Americans agree MAGA is a threat to democracy

yet we all know who Biden is talking about

 

I already explained why this wasn't a witch hunt. It wasn't all based on unsubstantiated lies to the FISA court. A bipartisan Senate investigation found that the FISA warrants were valid and legal, not based on lies.
Pure opinion. What is a anti-Trumper? I think there are many reasons why anyone could be upset and bothered by the Jan 6th events.
Again, that's opinion. I don't think it's basically the same thing. There are a few similarities, but there are some enormous differences. We differ in our opinions. And it's ok. Not like we will be making any determination.
I addressed that in another post. I guess you missed it, except that you responded to it. Weird, right?

I color coded it for clarity, I need to learn how to break up the quotes individually. lol

 

Name one person on the Jan 6th committee who would give Trump a fair shake. As far as the other stuff goes, it is all abuse of power by the Democrats to investigate Trump. They've done it nonstop since before Trump even took office. You'll understand this all a lot more when Republicans take back the House and can abuse their power in any way they see fit with a simple vote of 218-217. Impeachments are coming and not just on Biden.

 

I don't need to prove anything as I stated fact:
MAGA Republicans was clearly defined, it the 2020 election deniers that are working still on behalf of The Big Lie and undermining the ability of the voters being represented. That's the internal fascist threat.
Can you dispute/debunk it? If you can, please do.

 

I can't name many on the committee off the top of my head, and you couldn't either. And how in the world would either one of us know if they would give Trump a fair shake or not. In other words, it's all speculation and opinion. Prove they wouldn't give Trump a fair shake. I think they all would, they are just following the facts. See the problem?
No president gets a pass from criticism. Republicans said about Obama on day one that their intention was to not work with him and make him a one term president.
Fox news showed Nazi's marching in the background when Obama was running for president, and even after the election.
All presidents get scrutinized. Only one can't take it.
And his followers have mimicked his whining and crying about EVERYTHING.
And as far as what Republicans do in the future, good luck. I've heard Republicans are "gonna do ________" for years now and even when they had the majority they got nothing substantial done. Oh, except for permanent tax breaks for the wealthy and corporations.
Good luck on the impeachments. I'll deal with it when it happens. I'm not too worried, and if they find some valid reason, go for it.
You're having trouble distinguishing between facts, projection and opinion.

 

Not only did most of the left wing NOT support that, there was NO objective of overthrowing our government or ending our democracy.

Jan 6 was BOTH of those. Plus, MAGA has continued to work to end our democracy. The fact that it hasn't all been violent does NOT excuse this direction of undermining the very foundation of America.

 

Where were they clearly defined? I need a link for proof.

 

The entire committee is known to be all anti-Trumpers, with 2 Republican anti-Trumpers in there for good measure. The committee is not designed to give Trump a fair shake.

 

Look it up, it's not rocket science.

 

LOL. Again, you can't prove what you say.

 

Really? That's the shelter you are hiding under? Disprove my post or do your research.
For your reference,
MAGA Republicans was clearly defined, it the 2020 election deniers that are working still on behalf of The Big Lie and undermining the ability of the voters being represented. That's the internal fascist threat.

 

Disprove your post? Seriously? You haven't proven your post. There is nothing to disprove.

 

So what? Christ. A "MAGA Republican" is a Republican who buys the empty "platform" of Bonespurs J. Trump.

"Prove , uh, this or that!" **** no.

Pointless trade wars. Anti-NATO. Non-interventionist regardless of the necessity of American power. Appointing numerous inexperienced federal judges (e.g. Aileen Cannon) to support Trump's clueless agenda. Anti-immigration. Anti-Muslim. Anti-science. Believing factless election fraud claims. Ignorance of the law. Anti-rule-of-law. Supporting self-dealing by the president.

Many of them self-identify as "MAGA Republican" without having a ****ing clue about the history of the GOP.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/08/biden-maga-republicans-democracy/

 

I need you to provide proof of exactly how Biden defines a MAGA Republican semi-fascist. If you can't then he called over 70 million people MAGA Republican semi-fascists.

 

Here have a go at this:
A FACT:
MAGA Republicans was clearly defined, it the 2020 election deniers that are working still on behalf of The Big Lie and undermining the ability of the voters being represented. That's the internal fascist threat.

 

NATO is a trigger hair away from involving the US in another global conflict. If it's not the Russo-Ukraine conflict, a new conflict will emerge in Europe and you heard President Tin Can: He will defend every inch of NATO land. If you think it's patriotic to spill American blood for Europe, that's your opinion but I'm of the opinion that American blood should only be shed for American interests.

Going back to Vietnam and when the Left once protested what was seen as an unjustifiable war, they used to understand this. That is, the left used to be 'Maga Republicans' by this definition. America's power is not necessary, it just so happens that America's power has been used as a crutch which has actually weakened America meanwhile our enemies can be vested in the knowledge that they don't have to take on those obligations.

The 'who we are' crowd, mismanaged America from the mid-60's to the present. They will continue to mismanage the country in the future, all the meanwhile with the hubris and arrogance of the crowned rulers of old.

 

President Biden clarified his remarks saying "I don't consider any Trump supporter a threat to the country. I do think anyone who calls for the use of violence, fails to condemn violence when it is used, refuses to acknowledge when an election has been won, insists upon changing the way in which you count votes, that is a threat to democracy. When people voted for Donald Trump and support him now, they weren't voting for an attack on the Capitol. They weren't voting for overruling and election. They were voting for a philosophy he put forward."
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/09/02/biden-clarifies-speech-sot-nr-vpx.cnn

There you have exactly how President Biden defines his remarks.

 

I'm still waiting for a link proving what you say. You seem to believe if you say the same thing 100 times with no proof, that proves it.

 

LOL. Well, I have to give you credit for posting what Biden said, which makes no sense at all. He backtracked from what he had originally said, saying that "I don't consider any Trump supporter a threat to the country", immediately after which he totally backtracked yet again, basically saying that well, yeah, there are Trump supporters who are a threat to the country. I mean, he has used every definition there is. What is his final definition, the one he's going with?

 

Followed by another comment that makes no sense.

 

Feel free to look it up, it's easily sourced. You apparently believe that you've countered this salient fact:
MAGA Republicans was clearly defined, it the 2020 election deniers that are working still on behalf of The Big Lie and undermining the ability of the voters being represented. That's the internal fascist threat.

 

So just so we're clear, President Tin Can made his inflammatory address to the nation, which succeeded in creating more violent rhetoric on both sides(great job, mr. unifier) to specifically address the 9 or so 'election denier' candidates? Several of which his own party and shadow pacs funded? Really?

Yeah, 2024 for the Tin Can. I don't know who replaces him, I'm just gonna do my part in our civic political legal process to see to it that someone does. Canvass the vote, folks!

 

This^ is some form of cogent rebuttal? More like can't dispute what I posted and that just hurt.

 

I asked to clarify if through Biden's clarifications, his remarks is specifically only towards those political candidates that have or are running on the 'big lie', which is basically about like 9 of them in total. And if that's the case, given the rise in rhetoric as a result of the Tin can's speech he should be defeated in 2024.

Nothing hurt, it's just that somehow the Tin Can has 45% support because he can give people free stuff. He's impressive in how he works the system like that.

 

Biden has succeeded only in driving conservative voters underground. They don't answer polls anymore now that Biden has targeted them. This was the problem when the pollsters were all wrong in 2016. It is even a bigger problem now that Biden has sicced the FBI on Republicans.