Rachel Maddow brings an important message about an alarming world trend...

Like I said, you're welcome to your opinion.

Why wouldn't I mention Meier? Oh...because he hated Trump? Big whoop. Lots of people do. That's the difference between me and you. I have no problem admitting when someone I disagree with is correct on something.

 

Well, I don't know what you'd consider 'proof', but that's what the media, in general, is saying, so, there's that.

 

While I am tempted to go off arguing that Trump is NOT anti minority etc., but that would be derailing the topic because the reality is, this is not about Trump. It is about the international trend referenced in the OP. Being anti-globalist does NOT equate to being fascist in any manner, but that is precisely the spin that the globalists want their adherents to believe.

 

You're confused. BLMers protests are due to cops shooting unarmed blacks and getting away with it.

That blacks tend to be democrats is an incidental fact.

This is occurring on both sides, I can think of many cancels made by Fox news towards it's own people, such as Glenn Beck, Bill O'Rielly, Megan Ryan, and why did they fire Alan Colmes from 'hannity and colmes, eh?
and the list goes on.

Xenophobia on parade. Immigrants commit far fewer crimes than US Citizens.
Undocumented Immigrants Are Half as Likely to Be Arrested for Violent Crimes as U.S.-Born Citizens
https://www.scientificamerican.com/...sted-for-violent-crimes-as-u-s-born-citizens/

Half of undocumented who pay taxes receive no benefits for those taxes, unlike citizens. So, bullshit.

Yeah, right.

 

I totally, utterly, completely crushed your argument.

In general, your comments are drivel inspired, anemic in depth, and lacking substance.

 

You didn't crush anything. I STOMPED yours with FACTS form the FORMER ITALIAN PRIME MINISTER.. again, how does that FACT sandwich taste? is it delicious?

 

You keep conveniently ignoring the new information from the former LIBERAL PM OF ITALIA!
Do you know more than he does about Italy?
Why do you keep ignoring it?
Why do leftists think that if you ignore something, it didn't happen?

 

Looks to me like the supporters of the multinational corporations and champions of globalization are the Democrats. And the multinational corporations support the Left.

Who does illegal immigration benefit? Multinationals looking for cheap labor. Who does free trade benefit? The multinationals, not the US based companies.

 

Heh, its worse than that.

We're only on page 3 and the only conclusion I can draw is that many leftists are leftists because of some hysterical mental illness. The misuse of the term "fascism" is a good example. I'm pretty sure Mussolini and Gentile didn't have Trump or Meloni in mind when they wrote their essay on fascism. They would have been much happier with an administrative state impervious to elections.

 

I realize the term "Fascism" is popular. That does not describe either party at this time, but both parties seek more power and control. Dems are still in the lead on authoritarianism.

 

I saw the video, and if you think I trust her when she is on record of praising Mussolini, I'll have you know, while I don't know about you, I am no fool.

 

Ahh, more time travel. You had ALL day to come up with something good and you had to go back to her TEENS? WOW!
This turned out far better than i could have imagined.

 

Sorry to disabuse you of your taste in pablum, but truth hurts, I know. To wit:

She is definitely in the Bolsonaro/La Pen mold, she has alluded to her approval of fascist ideas most of her life, and in her youth, she is on record of controversial views, such as praising Italian dictator. praised Benito Mussolini in 1996 and Nazi Collaborator and co-founder of MSI Giorgia Almiranti in 2020. She changed the name of her 'Brothers Of Italy" neofascist party (which she led) to 'National Alliance' (in order to deflect neofascist accusations).

Sorry, not buying it. You can play the fool, but I refuse to.

 

You are doing a fine job of that on your own! I know its hard to swallow that I just crushed your thread, but I did. Also, you throw around FASCISM on the daily but i don't see you often put NEO infront of it
want to explain your word of the week?

 

That's actually along the lines of something I've been musing over: if the appeal of tyrants, might be greater for those who'd had a disciplinarian parent; the way that psychologists say, subconsciously, we seek out mates who emulate qualities of our mothers (for both men and women), regardless of if we thought they were bad mothers, or if we even like them.

As a leader is an authority figure, and can be idolized, almost as a youth's parent-- can this lead to self destructive patterns, in political relationships, as well?

 

Democrats believe in 'we the people', that the winner of an election should have the majority. That feeling is rooted in the sentiments of our founding fathers, and when it's not achieved, it's our right to believe such a 'winner' is not legitimate. The framers NEVER intended for the winner of the presidency to not win the majority.

And here is the evidence:

[It is a] fundamental maxim of republican government, which requires that the sense of the majority should prevail. --Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #22

 

I'll file that in the Unicorn Dreams file.

 

Besides being a lunatic isn't Maddow a lesbian?

 

Yeah, right. It's called neofascism which is a new way to say fascism

 

So? Italy is not a melting pot country like America is. They had some failed leadership that made their borders a free for all for migrants that should have never been there and should have been working to fix their OWN country. Some countries, including ones that are not white dominant, want to preserve their heritage and chose not to have a melting pot culture. That is their right if they want to do that. As for me, I enjoy diversity but that is my view and I don't force it on anyone.

 

The Founders never believed in the idea of a mob rule, in fact there are more federalist quotes against mob mentality than for it. So when it says 'sense' of the majority, that is the key there. Ideally, minority views are protected and heard and taken into account in the process hence the EV. But even the Electoral College has ran into unprecedented problems due to our geographical moving decisions. Certain states are larger than others, thus counting for far more EV votes than they should. This has practically destroyed the South and Midwestern States, and if no one pays them any heed it's because they don't need to in order to win elections.

 

You'll swallow any anti-Trump crap, won't you?

 

Huh?

 

Mob rule is a right wing meme and totally meaningless. All we have today are mobs

81 million people voted for Biden . 74 Million people voted for Trump. This idea that 81 million people is a mob but 74 million people is not a mob it's a ridiculous idea.

They both are mobs. All we have today are mobs, get over it!

Mob rule never meant majority.

I repeat

[It is a] fundamental maxim of republican government, which requires that the sense of the majority should prevail. --Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #22

 

Actually it's a Founding Fathers issue.

He also said: