Levin declares a person cannot be a ‘progressive’ and ‘support the Constitution’

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    https://www.foxnews.com/media/levin-declares-person-cannot-progressive-support-constitution



    You can’t argue the points made in this article. He stops short on a few thing I add as power grabs by this administration along with the return of policy racism in the Whitehouse. He also was right to point out the democrats attempt to kill the electoral college.
     
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    they embraced representative government

    And how do we determine representatives? Voting which is DEMOCRACY.
     
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    We are guaranteed a Republican form of government in the constitution. Madison can also be quoted speaking against democracy in the federalist papers. We are not a democracy and was never constitutionally intended to be
     
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    I think progressives is just a nicer term than the actual communists in the dem party.
     
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    voting=democracy.
     
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    You do realize that a Republican Form of government is an indirect form of democracy. The founders did not trust the masses, which is why they voted for such a system of representative government with three separate but equal branches. Second, the United States is not the only country with "checks and balances" within its Constitution. We may have been the first, but not the last. There are checks and balances within the Indonesian government and a few others. Third, just because one believes in political philosophy, nationalist, progressive, Republican, etc, does not mean it does not fit within the US Constitution. Mark Levine is wrong on this and is extremely hyperbolic with his arguments here. He also tried to argue that an Islamic person cannot serve as a representative in Congress because of their religion while completely ignoring the religious test ban clause in Article 6. But he also argued that Islam is not a religion. On both of these, he was wrong too.

    The GOP has proposed the elimination of the Electoral College and has state legislatures to name their presidential nominees. This link shows that attempt if the Conservatives were to rewrite the US Constitution as we know it.

    the conclusion, What Mark Levine said and the article is pure political BS and trying to state that Democrats are not Americans/Patriots. Hogwash.
     
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    Electoral College = republic.
     
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    And how does the EC choose? VOTING
     
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    The problem is the word "progressive". None of the left's policies actually lead to "progress".
    The left is genius! They got the right complaining about "progress"
    Why do they always let the left screw them with WORDS?
    They are masters at it, no joke!
     
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    True but the left is hell bent on making sure there is only one type of representative. Therein is the problem. I think the founders were against one party rule.
     
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    We don’t vote, our vote for president means nothing. Our electoral college picks the president. We are not a democracy and by all historical accounts of our founders we are a representative republic.
     
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    Did he forget to mention the conservatives attempt to overturn an election. Where is that in the Constitution. Perhaps his memory is failing him.
     
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    Where is exploiting a virus to change voting rules to make it easier to cheat mentioned? Where is that in the Constitution?
     
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    Aren't more conservative states changing voting rules as we speak? Should we have trivialized a virus that has killed 1.6 million Americans.
    How does that change the fact that conservatives are still trying to overturn an election?
     
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    Overturn what election? The election that literally does not matter? Everything that was attempted is constitutional because we are not a democracy. The senate could have constitutionally denied the election, the electoral college could have constitutionally voted against the constituency. Nothing that was being Talked about actually happened anyway.
     
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    Your handlers have spoken and here you are repeating their message. It works the same every time.

    Will you be voting, or do you also reject democracy?

    To argue you can't be a democracy and a representative republic is a fools errand.
     
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    Yeah! When a presidential election gets cheated, rules get updated.
     
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    I totally agree and have made this argument before but you obviously can’t disagree and just hop in like usual with a personal attack. Says more about you than me
     
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    So rules can't get updated because of a virus but they can be updated about an unproven (see the court cases) opinion.
     
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    Sorry, too late! I warned that nothing good would come of CHEATING. They should have listened to me.
     
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    Trying to mix the two is a fools errand.
     
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    No need to mix when they have co-existed from Day-1.

    Will you be voting, or do you also reject democracy?
     
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    Then why is it our founder criticized the idea of democracies and supported the concept of a representative republic? They were and still are recognized as different. I’ll say it again, we are not a democracy
     
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    continued…
    The definition of a republic also includes elected officials. Democracies are not the only systems of government that vote. We are most definitely not a democracy and liberals want it that way. Socialism, democracy, and liberalism has no respect for private property. Something else the constitution stands for. Liberals don’t give two hoots about the constitution
     
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    The Soviet Union had VOTING therefor the Soviet Union was a democracy.

    Perhaps the world is a little bit more complicated than progressive platitudes.
     
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