The Red Wave, no, the Red Tsunami!

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    More like a bubble bath.

    In a number of my previous posts I wrote that I believed republicans would under perform and democrats would over perform and comparatively and historically speaking I was correct. Biden has literally had the best midterm performance going back decades of any other president. A number on the right on this forum tried to make me feel bad about how bad our butts were going to be whipped because of Biden's "policies."

    Now I could gloat on and on and many said the Royal butt whipping would be Biden's fault well the opposite happened and it is Biden's fault, And republicans fault for appointing 3 federalist society justices to the Supreme Court and backing such lame candidates. I mean really with such a inflationary economy and the old president that stutters and forgets things And you guys still blew it?

    I've been trying to get many on this forum to change their mind about trump and now that the midterms have passed you oughta take my advice and dump him--he's toxic. Yep, Toxic Trump is his new nickname since hes so fond of giving them to others it's about time we gave one to him.

    Next time, republicans, don't count your proverbial chickens before they hatch.

     
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    Biden forgave their student loans. What more is there to say?
     
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  3. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well a federal judge has blocked it in Texas so we shall see
     
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    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It doesn't matter. It served the Democrats purpose and influenced the election.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Gee, that's funny, when I voted, it hadn't entered my mind at all.

    I swear, as a dem, I vote for other reasons than something like that.
     
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    I bet you don't have any outstanding student loans either do you?

    I know if I owe 20 grand and some guy promised he was going to make that debt go away if we elected him it would probably influence my vote.

    That would be of course if I actually believe political promises that people are campaigning on.
     
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    Yours is really a cynical lens with which to view government service.

    I mean, dems love programs that help people. Are the people they help going to vote for dems? Probably.

    But that is an inadvertent result of the policy. It can't be helped. Not all of them will. Not all latinos vote for dems, though the would be wiser to.

    Not all poor people vote for dems, though they would be wiser to. Not all blacks vote for dems though they would be wiser to.

    so, what, we are not going to help people to please republicans who criticize us that our helping people makes them want to vote for us?

    So, we should stop helping people just to keep republicans happy?

    Sorry, no can do.

    Don't you see, there is no way anyone can win with the likes of republicans, any time a legislator wants to help someone.
     
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    Republicans don't have a problem helping people however the problem is how you define help.

    If that help only racks up the national debt how does that help the next generation?

    You can only help according to the resources you have available to help with.
     
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    And why didn’t the republicans have a better offer?
     
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    Sooooo - what was their plan?
     
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    Pay your damn debts yourself and quit asking the working class to pay for it. That is my advice. Having the government be your daddy is not an answer. The entitlement of the educated class is nauseating. The infantilization of the populace is nauseating. There is not chance that people this weak could ever fight a war like WWII again.

    This is copy of wife's great great great grandfather's will. This was the entirety of his assets. Compare that to entitled middle class students whining about paying their debts. It certainly put things in perspective.
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    I think HockeyDad pretty much summed it up.

    Carry your own weight in the world and stop expecting the government to do it for you. No one forced them to sign up for the loans.
     
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    Does that apply to all those GOP congresspeople who benefitted from free government handouts?

    But where is that written as the GOP platform. It is an old trick - don’t commit to anything and let your supporters fill in the gaps , which means that every GOP supporter has a different belief
     
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    Again I ask “What is the GOP platform? “
     
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    The American women spoke loud and proud at the ballot box. If they told you different, ask yourself why.
     
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    the "real world" is closing in on DJT, other than the DJT base, the majority do not want trump or his "picked" candidates which rely on conspiracy theory world views
     
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    Now, what I am worried about is that Biden will see this midterm result as a mandate for the Dems, and approval of his own performance. I think he already mentioned after last Tuesday that he will run again in 2024. The LAST thing the nation needs is a repeat of the 2020 presidential race. Time to step down and let the younger generation take the helm.
     
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    You must be referring to the PPP loans that were designed to be forgiven if the expenses were covid related....

    And that was passed through Congress was it not? So the Democrats that benefited from it must have been in on it too
     
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    Biden bad. And dems are socialist. Tax the poor to spare the rich. Buy yer own healthcare and let the buyer beware.
     
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    Biden bought votes with the tax money of HARD workers and handed it over to lazy entitled millennials. Of course he got their votes! Why is OP bragging about it though? It seems equivalent to a person that just raped someone saying "they just got laid"
     
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    Allowing Democrat politicians the power of the public purse is like giving a child the keys to a candy store.

    They just know that the candy is good but they don't know why they shouldn't eat it all right now.
     
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    Says the "tax cuts pay for themselves" crowd. Priceless. I wonder why Trump supporters think that Dem spending is vote buying, but GOP tax cuts are not. Oh well, nobody ever said that partisans are not hypocritical when it comes to bashing the other party.
     
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    I'm SURE that would never apply to you... :rolleyes:
     
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    A bubble bath may be giving it too much credit. Look at the historical average when the party in power has a sitting president hovering around 40% over all approval rating. 48.5 house seats lost, 6 senate seats lost, 4.25 governorships lost. Look at what happened, the Democrats gained a senate seat, gained one governorship. In the house as of this posting the count stands 211 Rep, 204 Dem. The house is still up for grabs. Crazy election. An election where a red wave should have happened, but didn’t thanks to Trump.


    Trump in my opinion gave the Democrats a huge edge this midterm, he was the biggest asset the Democrats had going. Look at some of his candidate he chose, Oz, Walker, Laxalt, Masters and more. All very poor-quality candidates, all out of the mainstream, all unliked and not wanted by independents. It’s no secret independents don’t like Trump much. Him choosing the Republican candidate carried over in how independents voted. Overall, non-Trump chosen candidates ran an average of 8 point higher than Trump chosen candidates. That should tell the Republican Party something. I doubt it will. They're blinded by their support for Trump.


    This election was all about the Republican Party making a statement while the Democrats were interested in winning. They ran good quality candidates that could attract independents and win in the general election. The Republicans wanted to make a statement of loyalty to Trump. They weren’t interested in candidates with a chance to win in the general election. Just making their statement. I’m not surprised at the outcome. Not when making a statement is more important than winning elections.
     
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    What contributes to the debt more than anything is giving super tax breaks to rich people which causes deficits which must be financed. The deficit soared under trump After a super tax break to rich people. spending per se doesn't cause debt no more than when you spend do incur debt . you only go into debt when you are spending more than you make requiring you to use a credit card.


    If we tax the ridge spend within our means and use the money to help the people that need it then everybody will have money to spend and the economy will benefit because the rich can't spend more on themselves than they really need.

    Typically republicans have it as backwards. They want the rich to have more and the poor to have less ..

    No to benefit the economy the opposite is required. Here ye here ye! now get this-- running a nation Which is a collective enterprise,is the opposite of running a business A private enterprise.. What is the same is financing and debt
     
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