Supreme Court allows release of Trump's tax returns to House Democrats

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  1. Arkanis

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    The Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected former President Donald Trump's last-ditch plea to block the release of his tax records to House Democrats, paving the way for their possible disclosure to the lawmakers.

    The decision by the court in a brief order noting no dissenting votes means the committee can try to access the documents before Republicans take over the House in January.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/su...-trumps-tax-records-house-democrats-rcna56644

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    How many times has Trump lost in court since 2017?

    100 times?

    He will have tried until the end to prevent Congress from seeing his tax returns, but he can't escape his fate, which grows darker with each passing day.
     
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    He is undeniably the biggest loser.
    Still fascinating to see so many worship him.

    Such a sad pathetic con of a man
     
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    The fate right now is to be the nominee in 2024
    Beyond that, we'll see
     
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    T**** had copies of Biden's tax returns that were in the public domain yet he failed to prosecute while president? Oh the shame.

    What an incredible dip---- and people will yell "lock him up" at T**** rallies. The stupidity is astounding.
     
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    Which prison is Trump serving out his sentences for all those court losses? Oh wait, he is not in prison.

    I still cannot stand the man, but the people that have attacked him since he began his first campaign for President have FAILED!
     
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    I would doubt that hid Tax Information will not be released to the public in full detail. However, if he has loans and debt located in foreign nations, other than Switzerland and Germany that we know about, I don't think most of that information is going to be leaked as well. Trump, in all his antics, is just a crybaby when he does not get his way.
     
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    Well, democrats, y'all made this bed. Enjoy it. Things that you all feel wildly about like this always seem to come back to haunt you. And when they do, recall this moment of celebration and back slapping here. And remember this was what y'all wanted.
     
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    All of his court losses were civil. And that he pretty much lost in a very conservative court with Alito and Thomas not objecting to tell you something of what the rule of law is.

    The first criminal lost will be in New York when the jury deliberates and hopefully finds his company guilty on all charges. If that happens, he won't go to jail, but his company will have a huge tax liability plus severe tax penalties. And if DWAC does not purchase Truth Social by the due date, then that too will be another loss.

    And yet, you and others, including DJt, keep saying "we are winning" lol
     
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    Those would already be disclosed in his financial disclosers and it would be illegal to release his personal tax information they can only be discussed in closed session.

    If they are leaked do you support a full investigation into all the members and staff of the committee to find out who leaked them?
     
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    There is already a thread about Trump's tax returns but since this one was started will post here

    Before all the anti-Trumpers leftist have their orgasms here let me point out that Trump's returns will only be available to a closed seesion of the committee and shall not be publically disclosed for all to see.

    (1), except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/6103

    Any person leaking any information contained in the returns would be subject to prosecution. Will that stop Dems on the committee from violating Trumps rights remains to be seen. I would ask those on the left do you support Dems that would do so or would you support their prosecution?

    Second as I have asked for seven years now what what exactly is it you are hoping to find out from his tax returns that we do not already know through his other financial disclosures and be specific. I would note to you this from the New York AG concerning the $250M tax lawsuit against Trump

    "He said the Trumps already have most of the documents from their own records and those obtained from Mazars USA, Trump’s long-time accountant, who resigned last year. He said that a “significant amount of Mazars’ records are Donald Trump’s taxes,” but noted it was “not going to be that big of a factor in this litigation.”
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/22/politics/new-york-lawsuit-trump-october-2023-trial/index.html

    And then explain what is this legislative purpose that requires Trumps tax returns from not only when he was President but before? What are they trying to do here? What is the goal?
     
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    Never have been able to stand the man but I do stand the Constitution and the law.
     
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    I suppose this means the House can get yours and my tax returns if we do something they don't like.
     
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    He embodies the hard core WWF/WWE viewership, seriously. Even thought is entertainment, the riling up of "the audience" is the money maker as well as "the spectacle". His base is trained to think this way.
     
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    Sure...Why Not?
    LEAK FIRST (Ask Questions Later)...
     
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    Fine with Me...
    Unlike Trump--I've got nothing to hide...
     
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    Sounds like the Justice Alito rule to me.......:).
     
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    Yup...:salute:
     
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    And it was the Trey Gowdy rule too....:)
     
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    Then send me a pdf of your last ten years of tax returns so I can post them here.
     
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    That is EXACTLY what it means, it circumvents the 4th Amendment protections. This Court is not concerned with this however, because its logic is pretty much the same one that it has regarding the separate but in some cases similar case of the government documents: When in doubt, defer to the DOJ. And in this case, it's 'when in doubt, defer to the government'

    Except the government doesn't even have a plausible claim, as opposed to its documents. Tax documents that are furnished, are on an individual basis. To claim otherwise, as the court has erroneously done, they could argue your SS number is in the purview of the government's interest!

    People are too partisan to see the widespreading implications as we do, at this bad ruling.
     
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    You need to stop thinking that you are quoting what I am saying as you never get it correct.
     
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    Well, it seems much like Americans aren't that interested in the Constitution and the law.
     
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    If they leaked the personal identification information, then that would violate 26 USC 6103(a). But it has to be personal identification information. If a report by the committee references the tax information, then that is not a violation. But the point I was making was that any tax information on Trump's returns will be limited to any possible criminal activity that the committee is investigating or any possible conflicts of interests that has not been disclosed.
     
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    I think you need to reread what you wrote. You said, "Which prison is Trump serving out his sentences for all those court losses? Oh wait, he is not in prison."

    What I highlighted in bold is what I was responding to. You seem to equate court losses with prison time and that is not the case with civil lawsuits. Bear in mind, this was a very conservative court that had no objections to releasing the tax returns. Think about that for a moment before you respond again.
     
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    The committee that will obtain the tax records is the Ways and Means Committee and to determine " "legislation on equitable tax administration, including legislation on the President's tax compliance." So, this will probably be some legislation that will rein in the President's conflict of interest issues that follows Trump everywhere in his administration. They could also draft legislation that if a person is running for President, then full disclosure of their tax returns should follow.
     

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