US military shoots down Chinese spy balloon over Atlantic Ocean

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it did get ended, issue resolved, now let's collect the balloon and find out if it was just some scientist that lost control of it or if it was a spy balloon

    we went to war with Iraq over WMD, jumped the gun, let's take a breath, get the facts
     
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  2. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Couldn't the dummies intercept the signals from the balloon?
     
  3. FreshAir

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    do you know there was signals?
     
  4. Bullseye

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    Take care of the balloon after it's done its job. Why to go, Joe!
     
  5. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe NORAD didn’t see it then?
     
  6. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don’t know about that, NORAD tracks Santa Claus and he’s a lot smaller.

    We track space junk, a giant balloon should have been a piece of cake.
     
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    It possibly had an EMP aboard. while unlikely (both that it had one, or that shooting it would cause it to detonate), its not a risk worth taking, shooting it down over ConUS. Better to take it out where a potential EMP would have little or no effect.

    The baloons are most likely a test to see if such an attack would be effective. The earth's magnetic feild dampens EMP, thats why EM from the sun doesnt fry everything (except for when solar flares overwhelm us). But the earth's magnetic feild fluctuates depending on both geography and time. The baloons likely have equipment on board to measure magnetic field so an effective EMP attack can be coreographed later. Also they're presumably monitoring our response to it and how weather patterns effect the delivery devices (baloons).
     
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    What actually did happen is that the balloon got shot down & nobody got hurt.

    Your right wing media told you to be upset, so you are. If they had told you to be upset about it being shot down over Montana 'risking American lives' you would have done that to. If it had said nothing you would be quiet.
     
  9. flyboy56

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    Why was Montana’s airspace the only one that was restricted and not other states it flew over?
     
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    The balloon could have been carrying a bioweapon.. good thing Biden assessed the potential damage.
     
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    Wait a minute, the vociferous Putin supporters is screaming about American 'national secutiry'. OK, that is just TOO FUNNY. You support an anti-American dictator, you don't care about Us 'national security'.
     
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    A governor is responsible for the citizens of their state. Now if you had read the rest you would understand how a governor could have assisted Biden and kept him from making an ass out of himself and this country. Of course this is another moment of non-transparency by this administration.
     
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    Was the wind blowing onshore when it was shot down?
     
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    Ukraine isn’t a national security issue. Now a nuke from Putin certainly is. And a balloon from China is as well.
     
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    Who supports Putin? Not me. Some of us don’t support oppressive and corrupt countries like China and Ukraine. I’m not on their mailing list, but has the DNC sent out the email telling libs not to criticize China?
     
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    Are you saying China would intentionally create a bio weapon and send it to America?
     
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    I think we should ask Xi and take his word at face value like last time
     
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    I believe folks like you would take his word for it and accuse anyone of blaming China for a virus is racist like last time. Do you know anyone who might think China’s balloon might have a bio weapon or virus?
     
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    It is exactly what the GOP said this afternoon after it was shot down. LOL
     
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    but why didn't we shoot it down when it was over residential areas?
     
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    You have to consider the possibility. If Biden shot it down and it had a bioweapon that spilled into our country, would you criticize him?
     
  22. Think for myself

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    Hilariously, self proclaimed avid outdoorsman Don Junior told folks in Montana to shoot the balloon down.

    It was 11 miles up.

    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-says-montanans-should-destroy-chinese-spy-balloon-1778920

    Trump Jr., an avid hunter, is familiar with different types of guns. In 2016, the New Yorker reported that he owned "dozens" of guns. However, people are teasing him on Twitter for his suggestion that Montana residents shoot the suspected spy balloon down themselves.

    Most guns, including handguns and rifles, don't shoot accurately past approximately 500 yards, or 1,500 feet. The balloon is 60,000 feet high, making it relatively impossible for a civilian to target it.
     
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    I'm surprised they weren't told to be upset because we could have killed the cartoon character from UP.....

    They would never be quiet because they are always told to be angry over something...
     
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    The guy I was addressing is a Putin supporter. Also a right wing Trump supporter. There are quite a few of those on this forum, though I don't imagine you much care. Funnily enough I don't think there is a single Biden supporter here who supports Putin. If there is I haven't seen one. Guess Putin support tends to come from one side of US politics - he hates all the same people, so its hardly surprising.

    Who are these pro-China Biden supporters on this forum? Got names? I can give you a list of Putin supporters or apologists who are Trump fans. Can you do the same for China? Just to help you with definitions, not losing your mind over an alleged surveillence ballon isn't being an 'apologist' for China.
     
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    So a balloon from China is a bigger issue than an expansionist Russia? I guess propaganda really does rot the brain comrade.
     
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