How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

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  1. Ethereal

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    Seymour Hersh, the greatest living investigative journalist, two-time Pulitzer-prize winner, responsible for breaking some of the biggest stories in American history, has just launched a Substack where he reveals US complicity in the Nordstream pipeline attack.

    Not that this was ever in question. It was always painfully obvious that the US blew up the pipeline. But when a journalist of Hersh's caliber breaks the story, it makes it much harder for the US government boot-lickers and anti-Russian fanatics to dismiss out of hand. Not that they won't try, of course. I have no doubt they will come in and claim that Hersh may have been great, once, but fell into "conspiracy theories" later in his career. Some will probably accuse him of fabricating things. I guess people will just have to decide who is more believable and more credible: the greatest American journalist or the pathetic hacks trying to discredit him.

    Either way, I'm excited to see Hersh is back to writing and reporting. His presence is desperately needed at a time when governmental and corporate propaganda is so pervasive and extreme.
     
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    Putin asked Biden and Biden said no, Putin says he believes him, why would he lie, I don’t see any reason why he would.....

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/16/trump-putin-meeting-election-meddling-722424

    "“My people came to me, [Director of National Intelligence] Dan Coats came to me and some others saying they think it’s Russia. I have President Putin, he just said it’s not Russia,” Trump said. “I will say this, I don’t see any reason why it would be.”"
     
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    Bwahahaha

    Right on cue, you're so predictable.

    I guess people will have to decide who is more credible: the greatest American journalist or you and the other liberal hacks trying to discredit him.
     
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    Hersh is an over-the-hill gasbag who has struggled (and largely failed) to stay in the spotlight in his dotage.

    Reuters
    White House says blog post on Nord Stream explosion 'utterly false'


    WASHINGTON, Feb 8 (Reuters) - The White House on Wednesday dismissed a blog post by a U.S. investigative journalist alleging the United States was behind explosions of the Nord Stream gas pipelines as "utterly false and complete fiction."

    Reuters has not corroborated the report, published by U.S. investigative journalist Seymour Hersh, which said an attack was carried out last September at the direction of President Joe Biden.

    "This is utterly false and complete fiction," said Adrienne Watson, a spokesperson for the White House National Security Council. Spokespeople for the CIA and State Department said the same. . . .
     
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    *L*

    His claims are unfounded and facially absurd. He offers no evidence and no named sources. Those are his credentials, as far as I am concerned. :)
     
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    You're a liberal partisan who repeats US government propaganda as a matter of course. No reasonable person cares what you think of Hersh's credentials.
     
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    Breaking news: Criminals deny being involved in crimes
     
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    Who is more credible? Greatest American journalist of all time or the pathological liars in the Biden regime?

    lol
     
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    You can't even defend what he wrote. Did you even read it? You just keep trying to argue that we should believe him because of his credentials. I'm telling you that he has presented nothing worth taking seriously. No facts, no credible sources. Whatever his past credentials, he is not doing himself any favors with this piece.
     
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    There is nothing to defend. Either you believe Herst or you don't. I believe him because he's built up his credibility through legendary reporting and journalism. You don't believe him because you're a liberal partisan whose entire existence revolves around parroting US government propaganda.
     
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    Well, there's this.... kinda straight from the horse's mouth.

     
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    When the NYT or WAPO cites "anonymous officials" in its stories, Durandal believes them without question and parrots their claims as if they're gospel. But when a legendary investigative journalist cites an unnamed source, suddenly Durandal turns into a massive skeptic.

    lol
     
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    :laughing: I agree that there is nothing to defend. There is no substance to the article. It's one former journalist's flight of fancy, or perhaps even his retelling of what some GRU agent fed him as an anonymous source.

    You can believe him based on past credentials if you like. The fact remains that he has provided nothing but what amounts to a personal opinion, assuming he is even being honest and believes what he wrote.
     
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    After all, you claim that there is freedom of speech in the US. And as soon as a person expressed an opinion that did not coincide with the official paradigm, a flock of ravens immediately rushed to peck him!

    Is this freedom of speech? Are you serious?
     
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    There is nothing to defend because you've failed to provide a single legitimate critique of his work. All you've done is reveal another layer of your own hypocrisy. Because you've been parroting the claims of "anonymous officials" and "unmanned sources" for years now. But when the greatest journalist in American history does the same thing, suddenly you're all skeptical.
     
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    Yawn. Just endless Putinist propaganda. So boring.
     
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    He's been wrong before and he's wrong this time.
     
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    Yawn. Just more USGOV propaganda. So boring.
     
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    It is, exactly.
     
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    Dishonest hacks have been trying to discredit Hersh his entire career. This time is no different.
     
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    Here is Durandal posting a CNN article that cites "White House and intelligence officials intimately familiar with the contents of the conversations".

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...g-his-own-advisers-trumps-phone-calls.574705/

    In other words, Durandal is totally fine with unnamed sources, so long as CNN, the least credible news agency in history, is the one citing them.

    But when America's greatest living journalist cites an unnamed source, suddenly Durandal turns into the world's foremost skeptic.

    :roflol:
     
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    What work? He didn't do any work. He just wrote a long fiction piece and here you are telling us all to believe it because, like, credentials and stuff.
     
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    Every time Hersh has broken a big story in his career, government apologists and hacks have tried to smear and discredit him. It's beyond predictable.
     
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