CNN flash poll: Here's what viewers thought of Biden's address

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  1. Pommer

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    Mediate is center-left and would only be perceived as left as storefront is right if one is firmly ensconced in the Stormfront’s backyard.
    Great job telling us who you are!
     
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    Wow, what class, she waited until the speech was over before “reacting”!
    (Cue the but,but,buts…)
     
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    Glad to see certain people putting so much stock in CNN's Reporting...
    So? CNN is No Longer "Fake News"? Cool...
    Glad to see the RW accepting every keystroke of CNN's Reporting as Irrefutable Gospel...
    ^Great to hear going forward into Election Season...:flagus:
     
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    I see you chose to react to one while totally glossing over the other. You go Tiger!
     
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    Damn right! ;-)

    Robert Dinkin, author of “Campaigning in America: A History of Election Practices,” notes that “if a candidate ignored the custom of treating, he often found himself in great difficulty.”

    And that’s exactly what happened to none other than George Washington, our cherry tree-hating, momentous river-crossing, … Except it wasn’t the presidential election. It was back in 1755, when a 24-year-old Washington was running for the House of Burgesses (essentially the Virginia state legislature). He knew of the practice of treating and adamantly objected, having already complained to the governor that local Commonwealth bars rendered his soldiers “incessantly drunk and unfit for service.”

    So Washington says no to bumbo, and loses the election. Hard. As in his opponent gets 271 votes and he gets a mere 40. Fast-forward three years, and Washington runs again. Not only has he changed his mind about treating, Washington goes out of his way to serve 144 gallons of alcohol (rum, punch, hard cider, and beer), or roughly half a gallon per vote of the whopping 331 votes that won him the election, according to historian Daniel Okrent. In fact, Washington had done such a 180, he was actually concerned he hadn’t served enough booze.”

    Washington wasn’t the only important statesman, and eventual president, who initially refused to engage in treating. According to Dinkin, when James Madison tried to campaign in 1777 “without ’the corrupting influence of spiritous liquors, and other treats,’ he lost to a less principled opponent.” By the time he was elected president in 1808, we have to assume he’d learned his lesson.”
    VINEPAIR, Open Bar: America’s History of Buying Votes With Booze, By EMILY BELL, August 31, 2016.
    https://vinepair.com/articles/history-voting-alcohol-america/
     
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    Her behavior was nothing like those in the chamber yelling "liar!" at the tops of their voices. Apples and oranges. I don't see you condemning them, so don't attack me with your false equivalency. And remember who holds that position now: an election denying-MAGA Republican. He's wanted that gavel since he was a child (not too long ago), but he has no clue how to do the job. And please tell me what Marge is an expert on, because it isn't governing. Plus, how do you excuse Kevin's insistence that Greorge Santos, if that's really his name, should remain in congress.

    The cleanup on aisle Dem is miniscule to that on aisle Repub.
     
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    Please don't try to go whataboutism to whatabouism on this. You wouldn't enjoy the comparisons I could make.
     
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    Sure it does. It was silly, and beneath her. But there is no comparison between that, and the couple dozen MAGA Republicans shouting "liar! at the top of their lungs. That was childish and rude.
     
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    Proof, please.
     
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    See #56. Apples to oranges.
     
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    Mentally he still is.
    Because he is still a child.
    Being an obnoxious ass. It does take special skills to be that.
    To be fair, nobody has accused her of that.
    He can not afford to lose any votes.
     
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    I'd compare hers with Trump's any day.
     
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    So you don't want me to point out double standards?
     
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    How was it a lie?

    https://boingboing.net/2023/02/08/s...-and-hating-medicare-and-social-security.html

    "It will be my objective, to phase out Social Security, to pull it up by the roots and get rid of it. People who advise me politically always tell me that's dangerous and I tell them, "in that case is not worth my running." That's why I'm doing this, to get rid of that. Medicare and Medicaid are of the same sort and need to be pulled out."

    That's a direct quote. In fact, killing Social Security was his main reason for seeking that Senate seat. He's not alone:

    https://thehill.com/finance/3850036-republicans-social-security-medicare-debt-ceiling/

    Voting every year, or even every five years, on established program that seniors cave come to rely on is bee ess. And these are not entitlements, they are earned benefits. They can't vote on who gets a reduction or who gets to work several years longer, our money
     
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    So where do dems interrupt Trump? From the video, it shows everyone applauding followed by Dems saying HR3/
     
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    :alcoholic: ~ Now we know the origin of Nancy Pelosi 's fondness for alcohol and politics ... :lol:
    ~ If politicians looked like this we could easily excuse any behavior and/or atrocities ... :blowkiss:
     
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    One Republicans is not ALL Republicans. Review what the Big Guy said at the SOTU. He didn't name one or two Republicans; he lumped the entire lot together as those wanting to sunset Medicare and Social Security. That makes Biden's pandering to the old folks a liar of the worst kind.
     
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    You (selectively) forget: Pelosi waited until the speech was OVER. Hence, she did not INTERRUPT the President's address.
     
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    Wow...I mean, WOW....there's not one iota of similarity between those two instances. Not one.
     
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    ~ Good you pointed that out. That makes it OK now . :w00t:
     
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    It makes it something very different, from interrupting a State of the Union address. I'm sure, even in your own, civilian life, you understand that it is rude to interrupt, when someone else is talking (don't you?). The SOTU, is not meant to be a debate, or a shouting match. Unless you happen to be the current U.S. President, it is not supposed to be, about you.

    Once the speech has ended, however, that rule no longer applies. After the SOTU address is over, the prior rules come back into effect; that is, tearing up the speech, afterwards, is the same act-- whether it is done the following day, or right after the end of the speech. The timing of the latter, of course, will have higher visibility, and so greater symbolic impact.
     
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    ~ I understand immature behavior.
     
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    What was so objectionable about Greene's behavior, to so many, was not its maturity level, but its disorderly interference, with the speech which the nation had tuned in to watch (not to see, the Real Housewives of Chattahoochee National Forest).
     
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    72% thought it was positive, go Biden! Best President every, best economic recovery ever, every one says so, biggly
     
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