Hitler's hatred of the Jews (part 2)

Auschwitz certainly was a death camp.

 

You're ignoring all the info that's been posted arguing that it wasn't. Let's hear some analyses and please show your sources.

 

The notion that the Germans ran "death camps" is simply residual Allied propaganda that has already been disproven.

How many "Death Camps" paid inmates for their work, provided medical and even dental care?




EXCERPT "Taken from the Yad Vashem (Israel’s own “Holocaust memorial organization), a photograph showing prisoners at Auschwitz being treated in the ultra‐modern dental clinic at the camp. Note the striped clothes of the prisoners. CONTINUED

"Concentration Camp Money ‘Lagergeld’ Used to Pay Prisoners for Their Work"
http://barnesreview.org/pdf/TBR2001-no1-7-9.pdf

EXCERPT "Far from being the “death camps” as you have heard so often, places like Auschwitz, Dachau and Buchenwald were not in the business of extermination. They were work camps, critical to the German war effort. But did you know that the Jewish workers were compensated for their labor with scrip printed specifically for their use in stores, canteens and even brothels? The prison monetary system was conceived in ghettos such as Lodz, carried to camps such as Auschwitz and Dachau and still existed in the displaced person camps that were established by the Allies after World War II. Here is the story of the money the “court historians” do not want you to even suspect existed." CONTINUED


Please keep an open mind and remember that the Allies had the most effective propaganda program(1) of anyone because of the cooperation of Hollywood's movie moguls (2).


Thanks,

(1). “Auschwitz: Myths and Facts”
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

EXCERPT “Allied Propaganda

The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [15] CONTINUED

15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT "green series," Vol. 8, p. 606.


(2). “The Director of the Holocau$t - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder”
https://archive.org/details/TheDirectorOfTheHolocaut-KhazarExpatriateBillyWilder

EXCERPT “Almost all the films you've ever seen of the Holocaust were staged. Using Allied propaganda as a rough script, directors from Hollywood were shipped to Germany and Poland to direct propaganda films for post-war use. One of the most notable of these was Billy Wilder, director of meny very well known films, such as "Some Like It Hot" with Marilyn Monroe." CONTINUED

 

1. The Escape Artist: The Man Who Broke Out of Auschwitz to Warn the World by Jonathan Freedland
2. Promises Kept: One Man's Journey Against Incredible Odds by Ernest W. Michel
3. History on Trial: My Day in Court with a Holocaust Denier by Deborah E. Lipstadt

That's a pretty good list of books and sources. Obviously you don't want to believe the overwhelming evidence.

 

It seems that if you were genuinely interested in "overwhelming evidence" you would have addressed the overwhelming evidence I've already written that debunks the standard Holocaust narrative.

Instead of attempting to refute any of the facts I've written that show the standard Holocaust narrative to be primarily grossly exaggerated and crassly exploited anti German slander, you drop the names of 3 books concerning 3 fraudulent Holocaust hucksters.

Vrba and Ernest Michel were not believed at the time because their claims were contrary to known facts. There's no reason to believe them now and soon they will join the other fraudulent Holocaust hucksters in infamy.

1. "Another “Holocaust survivor” exposed as a fraud"
https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/05/19/another-holocaust-survivor-exposed-as-a-fraud/

EXCERPT "In the recent news on the Internet, there are a lot of articles about Rosemarie Pence, who allegedly survived the Dachau concentration camp and went on to become an Olympic athlete. It has now been revealed that Rosemarie’s story is total fiction, but for years, people believed her and she earned fees for speaking to students in American schools.

Even though it was obvious to anyone who knows anything about the Holocaust that Rosemarie’s story was fiction, it took five years or more before she was exposed as a fraud.

The moral of this story is: Use your heads, people! If a story sounds unbelievable, it is most likely false. Don’t fall for every Holocaust survivor story that you hear."CONTINUED

2. "Could there be anything more twisted than these Holocaust fantasists? How more and more people are making up memoirs about witnessing Nazi crimes"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...le-making-memoirs-witnessing-Nazi-crimes.html

EXCERPT "Unfortunately, despite all these examples, publishers are still wilfully selling suspect memoirs based on the Holocaust and the war.

No doubt there will be more books of this type. With publishers fighting it out to sell the latest tale of World War II derring-do, or Holocaust misery, it seems unlikely this is a genre that will die out.

Anybody reading these books should stop and ask themselves whether what they hold in their hands is, in fact, true." CONTINUED


3. “Dozens & Dozens of the Most Outrageous Tales of the Holocaust”
http://wolfgangrudolf.blogspot.com/2016/12/dozens-dozens-of-most-outrageous-tales.html

EXCERPTS:
• Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived!! - Claims people were murdered in gas chambers at Bergen-Belsen

• William Lowenberg's astounding Holocaust tale - Had a magic thirst-quenching pebble, did not drink water, survived on his saliva for 3 years

• Yankel Wiernik's Holotale - Babies torn in half, woman leaps 10 ft barbed-wire fence, guards nail inmates' ears to walls, jews roasted on giant outdoor hibachis

• Testimony from the Eichmann Trial by Leon Wells - Dug up and burned bodies, used bone-grinding machine, ate lunch on top of corpses

• Irene Zisblatt's incredible Holocaust tale- Ate and retrieved diamonds from feces, had 2 post-sterilization children, weighed 40 lbs when liberated

• Rivka Yosselevska's absurd Holocaust fable - Escaped biting jew corpses, witnessed geysers of blood” CONTINUED


Finally, you list D. Lipstadt, the "Queen of Slander", as some sort of authority when she lacks the knowledge, courage and integrity to debate anyone about the Holocaust under any circumstances.

The woman is so ignorant on the subject that her multi million dollar legal army(*) refused to let her open her mouth during the Irving trial.

You're not going to get an honest representation about what really went on in Europe before, during and after WW 2 by depending on such unreliable hoaxers and hucksters.

Thanks,



(*). “Ms. Lipstadt Given Million$ & a Legal Army to put History via David Irving on Trial: Now We’re All Paying The Price”
https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2017...rving-on-trial-now-were-all-paying-the-price/

EXCERPT "The Holocaust story would not need criminal sanctions to protect it if it was historically accurate." CONTINUED

 

I am not goingto prove what has been proven over and over again, in courts of law, by eyewitnesses to the chambers and crematoria. I do not have to validate psychosis and hate.

 

Have you watched these videos?
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...he-jews-part-2.610995/page-20#post-1074290299

The issues of witnesses, gas chambers and crematoria are addressed. If you're going to be against something, you should know what it is..

 

How about you actually watch and listen to the reality contained in the videos and testimonials in the following link — http://www.camps.bbk.ac.uk/testimonies.html

Are you going to call American soldiers liars, try to claim the footage is faked, claim that the blueprints in videos taken when the camps were liberated are faked, and all the witnesses in the videos are lying.

Do you actually know anything about the concentration camps and extermination camps or do you just rely on cherry picked information produced by antisemites?

During WW2, concentration camps initially contained arrested members of the Communist Party of Germany. Then other groups were added — “habitual criminals”, “asocials”, and Jews. Do you honestly believe that the purpose of the concentration camps was to just imprison people and keep them alive? The extension of concentration camps were the 6 extermination camps that were built with the specific purpose of killing Jews.

Chelmno was the first extermination camp that contained three gas vans in which victims were murdered by carbon monoxide poisoning. The bodies were driven to nearby forests and buried in mass graves. Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka were specifically built near railway stations to make transportation easier and stationary gas chambers were built to murder people with carbon monoxide. Majdanek was adapted in 1942 to become an extermination camp by the addition of gas chambers and crematoria. Auschwitz-Birkenau was a complex made up of a concentration camp, a forced labour camp, and extermination camp. It eventually had a network of 40 satellite camps. This is where Zyklon B was selected as the method of murder.

Those who were not selected for immediate death in the Extermination camps were selected for work and would die within weeks or months from lack of food, disease, or overwork. Those that survived the horrendous conditions were often killed and replaced with new stronger arrivals. Over 3 million people died in these camps. You can’t deny their existence or purpose.

There were also forced-labour concentration camps. The conditions within these camps were far from adequate with insufficient food, lack of medical care, and long working hours. The death rates in the labour camps were extremely high. The Nazi had no regard for the health of any of these prisoners. They weren’t trying to keep the prisoners alive, they considered the prisoners subhumans. The prisoners were Jehovah Witnesses, criminals, beggars, the homeless, homosexuals, Polish people, Soviets, Jews, Gypsies and anybody who was considered political or racial enemies including children.

By 1945, fourteen million people had been sent to the hundreds of labour camps that existed in Nazi-occupied Europe. In 1941, the high command of the SS ordered the murder of ill and exhausted prisoners who could not longer work.

There were transit camps where people were held until the Nazi’s determined where they should be transported to.

There were POW camps — over one thousand of them which held British, American, French, Polish and Soviet military personnel. There was little food in these camps and poor sanitation and many of the inmates were forced to carry out hard labour. The Nazi’s particularly hated Soviet citizens and Soviet POW’s were treated particularly harshly. Over 3.3 million army personnel died in these camps via starvation, disease, lack of facilities or mass shootings.

The Nazi’s also murdered approximately 300,000 people in psychiatric hospitals who were deemed useless due to psychiatric conditions, congenital conditions and so on under the guise of ‘euthanasia’. This included many children.

With all the atrocities that the Nazis inflicted in these different camps, via their euthanasia program, starving people in ghettoes, and by random murders in the streets, herding people into barns and burning the barns, mass shootings in ravines etc — why is it so hard to believe that the Extermination camps existed? It beggars belief with all the proof that you can write the tripe that you do based on nothing but lies.

There is absolute proof of all of the above and not one of the Nazi’s that stood trial in Nuremberg and after the war did not deny the existence of the Extermination camps. You would think if the Extermination camps did not exist, they would have vehemently denied it. They didn’t, they denied their involvement in the murders.

So please stop spreading hateful antisemitic propaganda and go and actually find the information that states exactly what went on because there is reams of it.

What @JBG said bears repeating “I am not going to prove what has been proven over and over again, in courts of law, by eyewitnesses to the chambers and crematoria. I do not have to validate psychosis and hate.”

 

The primary reason you're so desperate to evade substantive debate is because the fraudulent Holocaust narrative is indefensible and all you "know" is the psychotic and hate filled anti German bigotry that exemplifies the residual Allied propaganda narrative.

It is at least naive to think that anything about WW 2 could be validated either by the Soviet style post war trials and a historically ignorant and biased English jurist.

The Soviet style Nuremberg trials were so corrupt that Eisenhower's more ethical brother denounced them as "a black page in the history of the world..." (1)

US Supreme Court Chief Justice Harlan Fiske Stone went further to denounce the post war "trials" as a "...high grade lynching party" and a " sanctimonious fraud"

During the equally inequitable Irving v. Lipstadt (Penguin Publishing) trial, a historically illiterate Judge Gray was lead by the nose by Lipstadt's multi million dollar legal army that refused to let the ignorant Lipstadt open her mouth during the trial. Irving, on the other hand, could only afford to represent himself.

At any rate, jurists interpret the law, they do not and can not validate historical myths.

Re:

There are far more eyewitnesses who contradict the standard Holocaust narrative but because the multi billion dollar, international Holocaust Industry and Hollywood prohibit anything that contradicts their slanderous, anti German bigotry, you'll never hear them through MSM.

"An Unproven Holocaust: The Unreliable Eyewitness Testimony to the Genocide of European Jewry"
http://www.wearswar.com/2021/05/31/...-testimony-to-the-genocide-of-european-jewry/

EXCERPTS “Jewish historian Samuel Gringauz criticized what he called the “hyperhistorical” nature of most Jewish survivor testimony. Gringauz wrote that

“most of the memoirs and reports are full of preposterous verbosity, graphomanic exaggeration, dramatic effects, overestimated self-inflation, dilettante philosophizing, would-be lyricism, unchecked rumors, bias, partisan attacks and apologies.”

“Shmuel Krakowski, archives director of Israel’s Yad Vashem Holocaust center, confirmed in 1986 that more than half of the testimonies of Jewish survivors on file there are unreliable. Krakowski said that many survivors, wanting to be a part of history, may have let their imaginations run away from them. He stated that many of the testimonies on file at Yad Vashem were later proved to be inaccurate when locations and dates could not pass an expert historian’s appraisal. Krakowski commented on the Jewish survivor testimony,

“Many were never in the places where they claimed to have witnessed atrocities, while others relied on second-hand information given them by friends or passing strangers.”

Although seldom mentioned in the press, numerous eyewitnesses have reported that they did not see any evidence of genocide in the German concentration camps. CONTINUED




(1)"President Eisenhower’s Brother, An Attorney, Condemned The Nuremberg & Eichmann Trials"
http://www.renegadetribune.com/president-eisenhowers-brother-attorney-condemned-nuremberg-eichmann-trials/

QUOTE:

"I think the Nuremberg trials are a black page in the history of the world…I discussed the legality of these trials with some of the lawyers and some of the judges who participated therein. They did not attempt to justify their action on any legal ground, but rested their position on the fact that in their opinion, the parties convicted were guilty…"

Edgar N. Eisenhower, American attorney: Brother of President Dwight D. Eisenhower

 

That's a lot of long videos so it's going to take a while to check all of them out.

I know the official version but the revisionist version seems to use objective science. Here's one of the reasons I back the revisionist version.

At the 5:45 time mark of this video...

Auschwitz Why The Gas Chambers Are A Myth HD
https://archive.org/details/AuschwitzWhyTheGasChambersAreAMythHD

...it's said that the gas chamber doors were opened fifteen or twenty minutes after they were first closed and then they started dragging out the dead bodies.

According to this video that was an impossibility.

Le Probleme des Chambres a Gaz with ENG SUB
https://altcensored.com/watch?v=Ilx6-Qu7XaY

It's explained again in this video.

Tehran Holocaust Conference 2006: Prof. Robert Faurisson - Victories of Revisionism - part 2/2
https://archive.org/details/youtube-Ne3nYJxU6SM

When a testimony contradicts science, the testimony is obviously bogus.

 

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I looked through the list of bigoted yet profitable anti German propaganda films posted by @MuchAdo and they are precisely the ones described as "staged" by a source I've cited before:

“The Director of the Holocau$t - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder”
https://archive.org/details/TheDirectorOfTheHolocaut-KhazarExpatriateBillyWilder

EXCERPT “Almost all the films you've ever seen of the Holocaust were staged. Using Allied propaganda as a rough script, directors from Hollywood were shipped to Germany and Poland to direct propaganda films for post-war use. One of the most notable of these was Billy Wilder, director of meny very well known films, such as "Some Like It Hot" with Marilyn Monroe."

If you thumb through the photographs and film macabre film clips made by these directors, you will notice something odd. Among the living, many of the forlorn faces of the "death camp survivors" look oddly familiar. That is because some of the same actors were used in several shots, from totally different locations!

The involvement of film crews also goes to explain why almost all of the "concentration camp" shots were dated at least 4-5 days after the camps were liberated. They were location shots, sometimes using prisoners (minus their usual camp clothing), and sometimes actors.” CONTINUED

As noted above, Hollywood's film crews spent several days making an already dismal scene look worse than it really was by supplementing the piles of bodies with the bodies of dead German civilians and dead, German POWs, creating a pile of shoes from the inventory of a shoe repair shop and additional phony deceptions designed exclusively to demonize the Germans.

It was Billy Wilder's "Death Mills" that featured the fake human skin lampshades, fake human fat soap, shrunken heads and other completely fraudulent props to shock gullible rubes who are unable to grasp the universal reality that all sides used atrocity propaganda, only at the end of the war, the victor's propaganda becomes the war's official narrative.

The gruesome, WW 2 homicidal gas chamber hoax in which millions are claimed to have been murdered were, admittedly "...an important part of the Allied propaganda effort" (1) and no more truthful than the WW 1 propaganda lie that Germans cut the hands off of infant children.
Both were lies then and both are lies now.

The homicidal gas chamber hoax wasn't the only fraudulent ploy fabricated by the Holocaust Industry and Allied propagandists to further demonize the Germans.
Such outrageous deceptions as a human "vaporizer" that made human bodies disappear was used at Auschwitz to explain why there were fewer bodies at Auschwitz than the inflated number claimed. (2)

An additional Holocaust hoax that has quietly been dropped by the fraudulent, multi billion dollar Holocaust Industry was the mechanized "electrocution chambers" (3) They, too, were claimed to have "murdered millions" while leaving absolutely no evidence of their existence.

Common sense tells us that if "millions" were killed in homicidal gas chambers it would have taken hundreds of them to accomplish the task but, yet, not one has been found.

The only thing even close to a German made homicidal gas chamber was at Soviet run Sachsenhausen where
Gerhart Schirmer and other German POWs were forced to build by the NKVD to build one for the Allies to show the world.
Journalists, politicians, historians and military officers came from around the world to see a real German made homicidal gas chamber.
Fortunately, the audience noticed the new construction and quietly dismissed the hoax for what it was. (4)

It should be remembered that the Soviets captured numerous German work camps that allegedly had homicidal gas chambers.

Any objective person must conclude that if there were any homicidal gas chambers at all, the Soviets would not have built a fake one.

Finally, doctors from the Western Allies did autopsies on thousands of bodies and concluded that not one person had been killed by cyanide poisoning or deliberate starvation. (5)

The primary killer in the German run work camps was typhus according to Western doctors and honest historians.
Because the Allies bombed Germany's civilian supply lines, they could not re supply the camps with either food or medicine.
Typhus was so rampant at Bergen Belsen that about 14,000 inmates died after it was captured by the Western Allies.

So, the claim that there was some genocidal German plan to kill all of Europe's Jews remains a profitable lie used by the Holocaust Industry to deceive Americans into supporting another bloody European war so that the Communists could seize Eastern Europe, displace millions of ethnic Germans and, like the French and English, enslave millions of German POWs long after the war's end.

Since Allied propagandists, the fraudulent Holocaust Industry (6), (7) and Hollywood control the post war narrative, it's essential to remember George Orwell's timeless observation:

"Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."

Thanks,



(1). “Auschwitz: Myths and Facts”
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

EXCERPT “Allied Propaganda

"The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [15] CONTINUED

15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT "green series," Vol. 8, p. 606.


(2). "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED


(3). "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED


(4) "NKVD Forced German POWs to Build Fake Gas Chambers AFTER the War !"
https://vk.com/@-181845420-nkvd-forced-german-pows-to-build-fake-gas-chambers-after-the

EXCERPT "As a young officer, Gerhart Schirmer was captured in 1945 by the Russians and held in Sachsenhausen which the Russians continued to use as a prison. Although the War and Nazism were over, Schirmer and a few fellow-prisoners were forced to construct a gas chamber and execution room, to show the world what the Nazis had done. He described his experiences in a booklet entitled 'Sachsenhausen - Workuta, Zehn Jahre in den Fängen der Sowjets' (Grabert Verlag, Tübingen, 1992).

When 'certain groups' drew the attention of the authorities to the booklet's contents, it was seized and banned in Germany. This is described by Schirmer below (my translation). I understand Schirmer was given the choice of a fine or prison and he chose the fine because, being over ninety, he did not relish spending his last few years behind bars, especially as he had already spent eleven years of his life in prison." CONTINUED


(5). “Allied Forensic Autopsies Confirm Disease, Not Gas”
https://vk.com/@eric52-allied-forensic-autopsies-confirm-disease-not-gas

EXCERPT “Dr. Larson’s findings? In a 1980 newspaper interview he said: “What we’ve heard is that six million Jews were exterminated. Part of that is a hoax.” And what part was the hoax? Dr. Larson, who told his biographer that to his knowledge he “was the only forensic pathologist on duty in the entire European Theatre” of Allied military operations, confirmed that “never was a case of poison gas uncovered.”

Dr. Russell Barton further testified that on entering the camp he had credited stories of deliberate starvation but decided such stories were untrue after inspecting the well equipped kitchens and the meticulously maintained ledgers, dating back to 1942, of food cooked and dispensed each day.

Despite noisily publicised claims and widespread popular notions to the contrary, no researcher has ever been able to document a German policy of extermination through starvation in the German camps.” CONTINUED


(6). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED



(7)"HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED

 

I suppose this person who was a SS guard at Auschwitz is also making things up. He said:

"People were shot, gassed and burned. I could see how corpses were taken back and forth or moved out. I could smell the burning bodies; I knew corpses were being burned,"

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36168688

 

I was hoping that you would respond to the numerous facts I've presented, researched and supported.

What you won't read in MSM's residual Allied propaganda is that every single German POW who "confessed" to witnessing mass gassings, a genocidal German agenda etc was either tortured, threatened or somehow deceived into sticking to the Allied propaganda script.

Today, the multi billion dollar, international Holocaust Industry has succeeded in criminalizing the truth in about 16 European countries because the Holocaust narrative cannot withstand honest examination or open discussion.

Yes, diseased bodies were burned to prevent the spread of typhus and people who were real or perceived threats to the State were shot or hung.

There were no homicidal "vaporizers," homicidal steam, electrocution, or gas chambers just like the Germans didn't cut the hands off of infants as per WW 1 propaganda.

America's propaganda ministry was the O.W.I.; Office of War Information. They worked with Hollywood's movie moguls who continue to churn out WW 2 propaganda and absurd Holocaust exaggerations that deceive anyone gullible enough to believe the impossible.

Enjoy your weekend,


(1) "The Nuremberg Trials and the Holocaust"

"Torture"
https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p167_Weberb.html

EXCERPTS "Allied prosecutors used torture to help prove their case at Nuremberg and other postwar trials. /72

"Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn has cited the case of Jupp Aschenbrenner, a Bavarian who was tortured into signing a statement that he had worked on mobile gas chambers ("gas vans") during the war. It wasn't until several years later that he was finally able to prove that he had actually spent that time in Munich studying to become an electric welder.

"Reports of widespread torture at the postwar American-run "war crimes" trials at Dachau leaked out, resulting in so many protests that a formal investigation was eventually carried out. A US Army Commission of inquiry consisting of Pennsylvania Judge Edward van Roden and Texas Supreme Court Judge Gordon Simpson officially confirmed the charges of gross abuse. German defendants, they found, were routinely tortured at Dachau with savage beatings, burning matches under fingernails, kicking of testicles, months of solitary confinement, and threats of family reprisals. Low ranking prisoners were assured that their "confessions" would be used only against their former superiors in the dock. Later, though, these hapless men found their own "confessions" used against them when they were tried in turn. High ranking defendants were cynically assured that by "voluntarily" accepting all responsibility themselves they would thereby protect their former subordinates from prosecution. /85

"One Dachau trial court reporter was so outraged at what was happening there in the name of justice that he quit his job. He testified to a US Senate subcommittee that the "most brutal" interrogators had been three German-born Jews. Although operating procedures at the Dachau trials were significantly worse than those used at Nuremberg, they give some idea of the spirit of the "justice" imposed on the vanquished Germans.

"The fact that the Holocaust story must rely so heavily on highly dubious testimony evidence and trials staged in a historically unparalleled atmosphere of hysteria, intimidation and propaganda demonstrates its inherent weakness.
------------------------------------------------
72. Emil Lachout, an Austrian officer who served with the postwar Allied War Crimes Commission, testified under oath in a 1988 court case that German officials had been tortured to produce fraudulent statements about alleged killings of Jews in German camp gas chambers. He also provided what he said was a copy of a 1948 document confirming this. See: Robert Lenski, Holocaust on Trial (1990), pp. 274, 278.; Müller circular notice, Oct. 1, 1948, published in: Journal of Historical Review, Spring 1988, pp. 117-124.

 

I am not going to credit pornographic fiction.

 

#1. The Holocaust (or Shoah, to be more precise), was the systematic & intentional murder of millions of European Jews by the Nazis & their Fascist allies. Around 6 million. If you deny this took place then you are a Holocaust Denier.

#2. Its funny & sad how you deny there were death camps or concentration camps but in the same breath claim that the Jews of Europe were collectively a Communist threat and therefore DESERVED to be sent to camps. No trial, no charges, no judge or jury. Women, children, young and old. Send the Jews to camps. Millions of them. And you justify it. You support it.

Ironic & sad.

 

Photo taken at Auschwitz of dead bodies after being pulled out of gas chambers. Why would they all be naked at the same time? The lies being produced in this thread are disgusting and pathetic.

 

You already are.

 

For those who are interested in reality, I have provided some information and links related to blueprints from Auschwitz. I guess the Holocaust revisionists might ask themselves why multiple crematoria were needed if the purpose of the camp was for labour and Zyklon B was for delousing. There are multiple photos of thousands of Jews arriving at Auschwitz — where did they go, where were they housed if they weren’t sent to their deaths in the gas chambers? Since trains were witnessed arriving there everyday with hundreds to thousands on them — where did they go? Are all the SS who testified in trials lying when they described what went on? Are all the films and testimonies lies? By the way, cherry picking a few obvious lies or embellishments does not negate the reams of evidence that exists. I will not respond to any of those on this thread that are posting revisionist crap with illogical and daft thinking because it’s all just sick and twisted and an insult to Jewish people.

https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/phot...ich/kl-auschwitz-crematorium-blueprints-4708/

Blueprints and related material from a private collection.

This two original blueprints are in my collection, it are two blueprints of the big crematorium with annex gaschamber in KL-Auschwitz/Birkenau, the imfamous Crematoriums II & III.
This crematorium was designed in October 1941 by the "Zentral Bauleitung der Waffen SS und Polizei Auschwitz O/S" that was led by SS Sturmbannführer Karl Bischoff.
The initial design was for a crematorium to process the mass of Red Army soldiers that would expected to die while they were detained in the POW camp of Birkenau, during the construction of these crematoriums the usage of it was changed, Birkenau wouldn't be a prisoner of war detention camp but a concentrationcamp with a focus on exterminating jews & gypsies.
For this the underground mortuaries were changed in an undressing hall with an annex gaschamber and the corps slide that would give access to the underground mortuary would be replaced by a normal stair.

This blueprints are from the first stage of design of the crematoriums; on one of the blueprints you can see that SS Obersturmführer Walter Dejaco, the designer of the cremotrium has written "Neubearbeiten" across the ventilation system of the crematorium, the ventilation system was very important for the functioning of the crematorium ovens and the gaschamber.


Blueprints from 1941 found with Gaskammer (gas chamber) written on it.

https://www.welt.de/english-news/article2693668/Auschwitz-blueprints-surface-in-Germany.html

The original construction plans believed used for a major expansion of the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz in 1941 have been found in a Berlin flat, Germany’s Bild newspaper reported on Saturday. The daily printed three architect’s drawings on yellowing paper from the batch of 28 pages of blueprints it obtained. One has an 11.66 metre by 11.20 metre room marked "Gaskammer" (gas chamber)

Collection of blueprints found in Berlin were authenticated.

https://www.yadvashem.org/press-release/27-august-2009-09-58.html

The collection consists of 29 documents. Architectural plans, drawn on a scale of 1:100, show details for expanding the camp, including the addition of a crematorium and a gas chamber. They are dated between 1941 and 1943, and have been authenticated by experts from Germany's Federal Archives. Discovered last year in Berlin, and acquired by the German newspaper Bild, the sketches include plans for a purification building, with a gas chamber, dated 8 November 1941 (the building was never built); Crematorium II + III from November 1941; a plan for a building to contain corpses; a two-dimensional sketch of the now-iconic entry way to the Birkenau death camp; a sketch from 30 April 1942 for plans to expand Auschwitz I (plans which were partially completed); an initial plan for Birkenau from October 1941; and a plan for a huge headquarters building (dated 17 December 1941), that was never carried out. Some of the documents bear notes in the margins, or signatures by senior Nazis, including Himmler. Copies of some of these documents exist in other archives, and were previously known, but as a whole these are significant historical records.

 

I can certainly agree with your last sentence only I've been able to support what I've written.

Your photo (1) is one of the many popular fake artifacts used by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry (2), (3) to deceive anyone gullible enough to believe an organization that has repeatedly been caught cheating the German government, holocaust survivors and countless other organizations, countries and entities out of countless $ Billions.

Are you really unaware that the Allies, the Holocaust Industry and Hollywood (4), (5) all worked to produce bigoted anti German atrocity propaganda to demoralize, defraud and defame the German people?

The reason that the crematoria were built in the first place was to save lives, not take them.
At Auschwitz, Birkenau and Monowitz the high ground water table prohibited burial of typhus infected bodies.

The Germans were aware of the propaganda value to the Allies of building more crematoria but they built them anyway:

"In order to put a stop to the epidemics, we were forced to burn the bodies of incalculable numbers of people who had been destroyed by disease. We were therefore forced to build crematoria, and on this account they are knotting a noose for us." (6)
Heinrich Himmler
21 April 1945


Most people don't know that the German prisons / work camps were for all criminals in Germany so the inmates included murderers, rapists, pedophiles, thieves and muggers along with Jews and Communists.

Of course the German run work camps were in horrible condition before the Allied movie makers had 4 - 5 days to import bodies of dead German POWs and German civilians to make the body piles more impressive and otherwise set the stage for maximum propaganda value.

For example, gullible tourists are shown a pile of shoes but are not told that Auschwitz also had a shoe repair facility and those shoes belonged to Polish civilians in the surrounding villages.

Re:

Please show anything I've researched, written and supported that is a "lie".

Thanks,





EXCERPT "This supposed secret shot with a “smuggled camera” is said to show body burning at Auschwitz, because the numbers of claimed gassing dead were so impossible for the crematoria (actually used for the day-to-day dead of a 100,000 camp).

"It’s really a combination print of at least three photos: One, the window where a Jew Kapo snapped the shot “secretly” and two, a newspaper negative stolen from a 1912 train wreck in Dresden, Ohio, showing rescue people, along with a few real dead victims of the accident. Three, added figures and bodies were spliced in for effect (with obvious retouching — see the crude “spaghetti woman”). The final montage print itself was then re-shot on a copy stand to aid in the fakery." CONTINUED. (1)






(1). Holocaust Fake pics 1"
http://lovkap.blogspot.com/2014/09/holocaust-fake-pics-1.html


(2)"17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


(3)"HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED


(4). “The Director of the Holocau$t - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder”
https://archive.org/details/TheDirectorOfTheHolocaut-KhazarExpatriateBillyWilder

EXCERPT “Almost all the films you've ever seen of the Holocaust were staged. Using Allied propaganda as a rough script, directors from Hollywood were shipped to Germany and Poland to direct propaganda films for post-war use. One of the most notable of these was Billy Wilder, director of meny very well known films, such as "Some Like It Hot" with Marilyn Monroe."


(5). "The Hollywood Directors Who Filmed the Liberation of Nazi Concentration Camps"
https://hyperallergic.com/426644/lamoth-filming-the-camps-the-holocaust/

EXCERPT "George Stevens, John Ford, and Samuel Fuller, best known for their work in Hollywood, all documented the Allied liberation at the end of the war.

But during this period of war, they were acting less as artists than as functionaries of US propaganda and information efforts, working for the US Armed Forces and Secret Services.CONTINUED


(6). Gerald Reitlinger, The Final Solution, 2nd ed., Vallentine, Mitchell, London, 1968, p. 521. AlsoMoment (Jewish monthly published in Boston), vol. 11, no. 1, Dec. 1985, p. 51.

 

Even someone with a casual knowledge of the WW 2 era would be suspicious of something like a blueprint with Himmler's signature.

"Auschwitz Expert: Blueprints Found in Berlin Not of Death Camp"
https://www.haaretz.com/1.5056721

EXCERPT "Prof. Robert Jan van Pelt, a internationally acknowledged expert on the planning and construction of Auschwitz,

Van Pelt, an architectural historian, said that copies of the plans of the stages of the camp's construction were also in the archive of the Polish National Museum at Auschwitz and in an archive in Moscow.

Van Pelt said he also doubted the authenticity of the signature of the SS chief, Heinrich Himmler, since such a high-ranking officer would not have signed such plans, and none of the copies he had ever seen bore such a signature.

Van Pelt also said the words "gas chamber" on one of the drawings meant a room in which disinfection of clothing was done by means of gas, and that the sketch is not of an extermination camp established in 1942, but rather of earlier plans for a huge concentration camp in which a force of 130,000 slave laborers was intended to work.

Van Pelt suggested the plans might be fakes, motivated by the lucrative market in Nazi memorabilia and documents."CONTINUED


If "millions" of people were killed in homicidal gas chambers, hundreds of them would have been required but not one homicidal gas, steam or electrocution chamber has been found.

Where are they all?

Thanks,

 

These people did not arrive voluntarily,

You both all the nail on the head. None of them have said what the camps were for if not for death or forced labor inevitably leading to death.

 

There is a documentary called Auschwitz: Blueprint for Genocide


Description
Documents kept in Moscow’s archives since the end of World War II are providing the complete story behind the planning, engineering, and building of the Auschwitz complex. These documents also describe its ultimate role as a means of advancing Hitler’s final solution. This historical documentary provides insight into the role played by civilian firms and their engineers in the construction of the complex, and explains the motivation that spurred them to uphold the Nazis’ pogrom against the Jews. A BBC Production. (49 minutes)

New Information (01:39)
The Nazis overlooked files of architects in Auschwitz in their rush to cover up their crimes. Only now are these documents being analyzed, pinpointing guilt of those who built the machinery.

Long-Hidden Documents (02:03)
The Soviets moved architects' documents from Auschwitz to a secret library. In 1991, a researcher discovered the files and pushed for access.

Secret Files and Holocaust Deniers (02:29)
The Soviets hid the architects' files, but a portion were available for the war crimes trial. Holocaust-deniers could therefore seize on the opaque nature of available architectural plans.

Auschwitz (01:13)
Auschwitz was unique as both a death camp and a concentration and labor camp. The Nazis rounded up Polish enemies at Auschwitz; a survivor talks about conditions.

Crematorium Design (01:45)
Concentration camps sought to cremate bodies quickly. Topf and Sons Auschwitz crematoria combined two ovens in one incinerator to economize on fuel and are cheap and simple.

Ethnic Cleansing (01:44)
The Polish population in the Auschwitz area was moved out and ethnic Germans from Eastern Poland were brought in to "Germanicize" the area. Himmler sought slave labor for a chemical plant.

Designing Camp (02:0
Germans sought to use Russian POWs for labor and designed a camp for 125,000 at Birkenau, near Auschwitz.

Camp Conditions (01:25)
The camp was extremely cramped. Toilets were jammed together and did not flush. Russian prisoners died of dysentery and typhus.

Efficient Incineration (01:50)
Engineers designed a set of ovens linked to a single chimney, and a chute to slide corpses into the basement. The intent was disposal of dead bodies, but the building was later used as a gas chamber.

Policy Change Toward Russian Jews (02:55)
Initially the SS followed behind the army into Russia and slaughtered Jews, but this process was too public. Death camps were then established for gassing victims, and some Jews were enslaved.

Experiment in Pesticide Gassings (02:42)
The planned location of the large crematorium changed repeatedly in 1942. As Auschwitz assumed its final function as a death camp, the Nazis launched experiments in pesticide gassings.

Gas Chambers (01:26)
Feb. 1942, the first transport of Jews was loaded for Auschwitz. The crematorium morgue was converted to a gas chamber; then, for greater secrecy, gas chambers were created in Birkenau.

Corpse Disposal Problems (01:59)
Decomposing corpses from mass graves polluted the water table. When snows melted, water brought corpses back to the surface. Himmler had corpses dug up and burnt.

Design Change for Gas Chambers (03:17)
The engineer and architects knew what was going on as the crematorium designs were transformed to accommodate burning of living people rather than corpses.

Prisoners Build Crematoria (01:14)
Prisoners were organized into work groups to work on the crematoria intended for them. A survivor talks about the work.

Culpability of Electric Company (01:45)
Delays on the crematoria worried Berlin. An electricity company responsible for providing for the crematoria wrote officials a letter saying the government will be able to burn and kill in the building.

Gassing Jews (01:36)
Crematoria were completed and used to gas Jews. Jews in ghettos throughout Europe were rounded up onto trains for Birkenau.

Unloading Trains (02:35)
The SS ordered Jews off the trains and grouped them into men and women, then sent some to crematoria and others for work. Survivors give testimony.

Process at Gas Chambers (02:27)
The process of unloading and killing Jews was very efficient. At the ruins of a crematorium, an expert shows the path victims and their corpses took.

Auschwitz Death Toll (01:04)
An expert estimates 1.3 million were deported to Auschwitz, with 1.1 million killed.

Soviets Reach Auschwitz (02:4
The Auschwitz camp was evacuated in Dec. 1944; the Soviets fought their way in Jan. 1945. A Soviet commander discusses what he saw. The Soviets grabbed the documents.

Interrogating Engineers of Auschwitz (02:39)
The KGB hunted down those who engineered ovens and other death camp tools; records of interrogations are read. Some of those jailed were released in a 1955 amnesty.

Topf & Sons Attitude Today (00:53)
The current Topf & Sons owner, who is the son of the owner at the time, explains in a recording why he does not concern himself with the company's past.

Career After Genocide (01:44)
Two architects of the crematoria went on to successful careers. They were acquitted in 1972, but today's research points to the guilt of people like them. The film closes with comments on the Holocaust and human nature.

Credits: Auschwitz: Blueprint for Genocide(00:43)
Credits: Auschwitz: Blueprint for Genocide

 

If Birkenau was NOT a death camp, why did it have the crematorium capacity to dispose of hundreds of thousands of bodies every year?

If millions of Jews did not die in the Holocaust, how come only 300,000 Jews were left in Poland after the war, even though it had a pre-war population of 3.3 million Jews and at least 1.3 million Jews were sent there by the Nazis?

Facts are not on the side of Holocaust Deniers.

 

Crematorium II
According to calculations by the German authorities, 1,440 corpses could be burned in this crematorium every 24 hours. According to the testimony of former prisoners, the figure was higher.

Crematorium III
According to calculations by the German authorities, 1,440 corpses could be burned in this crematorium every 24 hrs as well.

Crematorium IV
768 corpses could be burned in this crematorium every 24 hours. According to the testimony of former prisoners, the figure was higher.

Crematorium V
768 as well.

At times, the bodies of the people who had been murdered were also burned on pyres in pits located near Crematorium V and the so-called bunkers.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/crematoria-and-gas-chambers-at-auschwitz-birkenau

So if you round it off due to suspected higher numbers, it would be about 5000 bodies per day. They never shut down. So you are totally wrong saying they would have needed hundreds of crematoria.

 

Auschwitz-Birkenau built with the industrial capacity to cremate hundreds of thousands of bodies every year. Nazis sure did expect a lot of their "workers" to die regularly. I wonder why that is?