What The Liberal-Left Does Not Understand About Trump

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Indictments aren't convictions.
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Which points out clearly that the prosecutions are politically motivated. I'm tired of having to say that.
     
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  3. Pycckia

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    Perhaps you ought to work to get the left to return to its senses. Trump is who you get when you demonize Whites, trash cities, open the border, groom children.
     
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    It's the only "standard" they have.
     
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    You are tired of spreading desperate misinformation? Good. Then stop.
     
  6. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Damn right they are.

    Funny how the National Archives knew EXACTLY what documents Trump had, even the top secret, need to know, eyes only stuff, but had no clue that Biden, Pence and Clinton had classified material in their possession.

    Amazing, isn't it?
     
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    Of course it hasn't been "proven" because he hasn't gone to trial yet.

    But given the charges in the documents case out of Florida you would have to be blind not to realize Trump is guilty of every charge brought against him in this case.
     
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    Not Amazing at all.

    That's the difference between having one or two documents and having BOXES of them.

    When looking for the needle in the haystack is much easier to do that when you have a few hundred needles vs. 1.
     
  10. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    What is the National Archives limit on how many documents they let slide? Biden possessed 30+. Is the limit anything under, say, 50?

    Is illegal possession of one document just as illegal as possessing 100?
     
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    None of the addresses: 'the problem Jack Smith has is that Congress has not enacted statutes that criminalize the behavior that Smith is talking about. But what he has to do is distort statutes in order to try and pigeonhole the behavior into them…The statutes on the books now are vague, and otherwise Congress hasn’t criminalized that.”

    And you didn't address is because my point is irrefutable and so you tried to slide by it and shift the discussion elsewhere. That might work great with propaganda and fake news, but it won't work in Court, but, that's not the point. You thought that the simply indicting would suffice and instead it has blown up in your faces, exposing the farce that started with Russia Collusion and is now extending through the attempted rigging of the 2024 election.

    'it will be difficult to prove whether Trump knowingly lied about the 2020 election being fraudulent. “[Smith] has extravagantly stretched these statues in order to try and capture this behavior and that’s because this is a proxy for what should have been a political impeachment process they’re leaving to the criminal justice system, the failure of Congress to carry out a successful impeachment,”

    Which is a misuse of the 'Justice' system to try to affect a political outcome.

    'Jack Smith, who is overseeing the indictment', is trying to make 'the case about the Jan. 6, Capitol riot as a way “to sell his case to the public,” despite the charges having no correlation with the riot.'

    '“That was one of the most demagogic presentations I’ve ever seen in a high profile case,” McCarthy said of Smith’s statement about the indictment. “Anyone who listened to that, any normal person reacting to that would assume that Trump was alleged to have carried out the Capitol riot. The entire presentation that he made was not about what the core charges in his case are, it was about the Capitol riot and the security personnel who were in the Capitol riot … Then you turn to his indictment, he’s not charged with the Capitol riot.”'

    https://dailycaller.com/2023/08/01/andy-mccarthy-jack-smith-indictment-trump/
     
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    What Trump is charged under is 793(e). He isn't charged with HAVING the documents, he is charged with not turning them over when asked/subpoenaed. A search warrant eventually had to be issued.

    As compared to Pence and Biden who turned them over when they were found.
     
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    No they are not.

    But they are far more than just "claims" of illegal activity. They are claims that have been backed up by evidence shown to a jury of ordinary citizens that have voted and decided that there is sufficient evidence of a crime and that the defendant committed those crimes. There is a reason why over 90% of Federal Indictments result in convictions or plea deals.
     
  14. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Actually, they just claims. Hence the saying "you can indict a ham sammich".

    It's literally, only one side of the story.
     
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    He asked you to define Conservative ...Can you do that?
     
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    So, you are highly supportive of those have a poor education, and have only scorn for who are highly educated.

    Let me guess. You are one of Trump's fans.
     
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    No, I am a fan of doing the right thing within the correct context.
     
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    Missing dads aren't unique to black people. In fact, white people are about where blacks were 40 years ago in terms of single-parent households.

    When my senior high school students saw the stats by race over time, it was for them the start of understanding how a number of social and economic trends are damaging the nuclear family, and how black community families are getting the worst of it. White families suffer from the same trends, just not as often.
    Rich folks have better schools. Consider where I used to attend school...

    https://www.pvpusd.net/

    Inner city schools in this country are the pits. Kids should get better.
    They're destroying poor white families, too.
    Huh? Students identify less and less ... because they're concerned with themselves? I'm concerned with myself? What are you talking about?
     
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    Trump probably wouldn't have had problems if he had given them back when asked repeatedly.
     
  20. StillBlue

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    As far as I've read the archives knew something was missing but not exactly what. If they have a top secret document that references others that can't be found you have a problem. Also, if the others are minor and unique there may be no desire to stage a hunt or even to know of their existence.
     
  21. impermanence

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    Exactly.

    Nobody is stopping you from giving your wealth to the inner city schools. Inner city schools get the most and have the worst results. Why do you believe this is the case?


    Exactly. It is not a race thing, it is a culture thing.

    Do you know why rich kids go to great schools? Because their parents understand that it is essential for their kids' success.

    The AA community needs to make going to great schools a priority, as well, just the Jews and Asians did, and this starts at home. If 20% of the AA community has achieved this then so can the vast majority. Their culture needs to prioritize this.


    It's a matter of degree. Social media has taken the self-obsessed [teens] and thrown them over the edge [just like they knew it was going to happen].
     
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    That is Trump to a T......if you actually followed his career.
     
  23. dairyair

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    Spot on.
    MAGA and it's members are set on destroying American democracy.
    trump is a loser and hates being a loser.
    That's why he tries to rig the system. And when he can't hr cries foul.
     
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    That I totally agree with 100%. Hey Imp they found my lap top to and found this:
    Continuing to pose you need evidence is past pathetic. Move on WB. Not interested in your denials.
     
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    trump never cares about anything or anyone but himself.
    Anyone who believes differently has been brainwashed into MAGA cult.
    And that is the destruction on American democracy.
    To restore white power.
     
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