Jim Jordan grills AG Garland over allowing Hunter Biden's potential Burisma charges to 'lapse'

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    None of the accusations have anything to do with Joe's vice presidency. You guys are still working on finding some kind of evidence for that one. It isn't our fault you've failed after several years.
     
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    Shokin is the source and Devin wasnt in on the call. Devin testified to the owner of Burisma insisting Hunter get his dad on the phone in Dubai, 4 days before his trip to Ukraine, and they made the call in private without Devin present.
     
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    ????We have Hunters Burisma invoice and Joe bragging about getting the prosecutor fired. That alone would be enough in a civil case. Get the FBI informant to corroborate the bribery and the banking records showing payments to Biden family members from Burisma and they would have a slam dunk criminal case.
     
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    What exactly did Shokin testify to, and why did Devin not know anything about any of this? Why did no one actually working for Burisma know anything about any of this?
     
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    And has given them complete independence.
     
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    The invoice shows no payments to Joe. The whole west wanted this prosecutor fired. The prosecutor wasn't even investigating Burisma. And Ukraine DID already have a case looking into this . . . which found nothing . . . just like the years of investigation in our own country. I don't think you know what "slam dunk" means.
     
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    His intent to interview Burisma board members including Devin and Hunter.

    ????Devin is the one who tells us that as soon as they met with the owner of Burisma in Dubai, he insisted that Hunter get his dad on the phone. And the owner of Burisma evidently knew about this because he was the one paying Hunter millions to bring an end to any cases against him. And

    Shortly after Shokin was fired, the case against Burisma was closed.
    Ukraine’s new chief prosecutor to ‘audit’ Burisma gas company cases - The Washington Post
     
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    Where is the evidence that he had any such intention?



    The same Devin who says they never discussed business with Joe? That Devin? And why does Ukraine say this investigation had been shelved even before Shokin was fired -- which, again, basically the entire West wanted him fired?
     
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    Shows no payments to anyone. Thats found in the banking records showing payment to several Biden family members. According to Hunter he gave half his income to Joe. Im sure they didnt create ANY records of these transfers. All we have is records of Hunter paying Joes bills. .

    Soooo lets see ANY published criticism of Shokin before he was fired. Ive asked a dozen times and to date no one has EVER provided any such evidence. AND we do know that Obamas state department, DOJ and National security office all approved of Shokins work. As well the EU praised Shokins work AFTER Biden insisted he be fired.


    Made up Biden BS intended to cover his bribery.

    Shortly after Shokin was fired, the case against Burisma was closed.
    Ukraine’s new chief prosecutor to ‘audit’ Burisma gas company cases - The Washington Post
     
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    Where are the banking records showing this? This is breaking news if you actually have anything to back it up with.



    Dude, Ukraine was calling for his resignation as soon as he was appointed. How do you not know this?




    Then show us the evidence of bribery.

    It had been shelved even before then, bud. You have NO evidence to support your conspiracy theories, and now you are coping hard.
     
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    Devin wouldnt know. He wasnt in the room when Hunter got Joe on the phone for Burisma. I would imagine one would tend to keep bribery negotiations confidential as possible. Nothing Devin could do to help Burisma. They needed Hunter.
     
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    So who has testified about this supposed bribery call and what was their testimony? Be specific. Try to be honest.
     
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    Congress hasnt released them.

    Lets see it. ANYTHING published before Nov 2015. The US state department, DOJ and National security all endorsed his performance.
     
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    White flag accepted.



    The minute you post evidence of the bribes you've claimed.
     
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    GO212551 (house.gov)
    devon archer dubai meeting - Google Search

    Mr. Jordan. The request was help from the United States Government to deal 7 with the pressure they were under from their prosecutor, and that entailed the freezing 8 of assets at the London bank and other things that were going on in Ukraine?
    9 Mr. Archer. Correct.
     
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    The same Mr. Archer who says they never discussed business with Joe and that they actually wanted Shokin in power. That Archer?
     
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    Bribery wasnt Burisma "business". It was bribery.

    and that was the "narrative" "spun" to Archer by DC.

    10 Q Are you aware that Vadym had told Blue Star that one of the 11 issues/pressures that he was facing was related to Shokin and the investigation into 12 Burisma? 13 A So -- yes. I was -- the narrative that was spun to me, quite frankly, just to 14 be -- and I remember this because, obviously, it's -- the narrative that was spun to me was 15 that Shokin was under control and that whoever the next person that was brought in 16 was -- you know, the fact that he was -- this is the total, this is the narrative spun to me, 17 that Shokin being fired was a -- was not good, because he was like under control as 18 relates to Mykola. 19 I have no way to verify that. And that was spun to me from various folks in D.C., 20 not Hunter specifically, but that was what I was led to believe. Whether it's true or not, 21 I cannot speculate.
     
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    I don't consider filling out forms that can be easily lied on to be any level of gun control....

    I'd much rather explore controlling guns...
     
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    So let's do away with background checks and federal forms and requiring people to fill them out honestly because my word we wouldn't want Hunter Biden to held to the law would we.
     
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    I didn't complete my thought accurately.... I don't consider filling out questions on forms that can be easily lied on to be any level of gun control....

    My bad...
     
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    YOu still have to prove with probable cause and evidence bribery and/or FARA violations. And so far, none of you guys have proven that. You think you have, but the reality is ya'll don't. Not even close.



    You mean the same plea deal that the judge will not accept and was subsequently dropped by the Special Counsel?
     
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    Then you don't understand 26 USC 7202 in which Biden was charged, but then again, the plea deal was dropped. This is a dead horse right now and does not prove one thing you are making.

    Yes, husbands often don't tell their spouses the full financial disclosure. And yes, it was a shock to her. He was robbing Peter to pay Paul, much like Trump does with his business.
     
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    Shokin has no evidence to present. He says he has tapes, but has not produced them. Even Sen. Grassley seriously doubts the tapes exist. Why do you think his statements were on a FD 1023 to begin with?
     
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    You are clueless. Shokin was fired 6 years ago and never claimed to have any tapes. That is the owner of Burisma who is alleged to have the tapes
     
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    Try to string a few words together if you can stating what you dont think I understand
     
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