Biden to Gun Owners: You’ll Need an F-16 to Go Against the Government

Not really, is just something most foreigners can't relate to, best example would be how an Aboriginal(s) views Australian or white man's laws..

 

Good post, doubt you succeeded to teach, but I loved it!!

 

I don't care how you count American's I don't see OUR Military attacking U.S. You're assuming the Military would be against 74 million American's, which isn't remotely likely.

If you look at the only rebellion of Americans against it's government, since the Civil War, January 6th 2021, there were about 30,000 Trump supporters in DC, about 10,000 went to the Capitol and about 2,000 actually engaged in insurrection. There were eventually ~ 1200 Capitol and Metro Police there and even later 1100 DCNG arrived to help clear the building.

On a national scale, using those ratios, (which is generous and not likely) less than 25 million Americans be philosophically against the U.S Government. Only about 8 million would rebel, only 1.5 million might become actively violent. Which is heartbreaking to think about, but I believe The U.S. Military, about 1.4 million active duty (1.14 million deployed in the U.S. and territories) and 250,000 reserves and NG, would prevail IF that many people actively chose to be violent; which is doubtful.

But still, what could possibly cause such a rebellion. In 240 years, Donald Judas Trump is the only thing that comes to mind.

 

And that's not counting a good portion of the remaining 50 million Americans (by your count) that would side WITH OUR Government, many of whom are armed for just such a possibility. I am certain of at least one.

 

You might not see it, but the one with the power to give such an order has seen it and spoken it quite a few times. At best, it only gives fodder to conspiracy theorists. At worst, he's the last one that should be talking about defending democracy if he uses the military against peaceful and law abiding citizens.

 

Now you’re playing Trump loser parsing games.

Trump gave the order. He was the only one with legal authority to do so. It would have been the same order he refused to give on Jan 6th. Indeed, the way Trump abused the military that day, caused a lot of the confusion and indecision on Jan 6th.

No one trusted Trump, and no one wanted to be party to his disloyal scheme, except skinheads, a mob, most of the GOP leadership, ALL of the Freedumb Caucus and right wing media.

 

Those are the facts. You’re trying every trick in you imagination to try and pretend otherwise.

But, like Jan 6th, the world saw it.

Trump lowered the United States in the world with that stunt. It was so characteristic of him, too.

Using the military to attack civilians unprovoked.

That’s what happened. You ought to love it, since it was your beloved Fuhrer’s doing. He was obviously proud of it, just as he sat in the White House Dining Room with a huge grin while the Jan 6th rioters did his bidding.

BTW, after that, they started keeping “the football” away from Trump.

He could not be trusted, by anyone.

 

In alternative reality privet citizen can buy fighter jet but on earth , the one I and most of us live, you can’t buy any fighter jet .

Firepower available to government like USA or UK is not available to privet citizen. It is illegal. No money can buy AGM-114 Hellfire.

Finally, I would rather trust government then my crazy neighbor with AR-15 thinking he will protect my freedom and fight back with government. No thank you. My neighbor who thinks he will stand up to government is far more un-trustworthy then government I elected via election.

 

Trump's goal, according to you, is to become an "autocratic dictator". This would clearly be unconstitutional. Would it be "true patriots" who interfere with that happening, or would patriots never consider interfering, as you said? Do you think the U.S. military would support, or resist patriots in preventing or removing a dictatorship in the US?

 

The youth and Women are going to vote for who ever the D is on the ticket. The GOP has no chance to get the majority of their vote

 

it be "true patriots" who interfere with that happening, or would patriots never consider interfering, as you said?[/quote]
I think our government can, ultimately, protect itself from all foes, foreign and domestic.
you think the U.S. military would support, or resist patriots in preventing or removing a dictatorship in the US?[/QUOTE]
I don't think it will ever come to that.

 

What is "it"?

That is what Trump is pledging, his campaign promises an administration of retribution.

 

More likely to not vote..

 

Ask them again in November if they feel the same about mango mussolini possibly getting a second chance to destroy their Country.

 

I don't either, but it's a simple hypothetical: The government has become unconstitutional; Trump has become an "autocratic dictator", and some subset of The People are moved to intervene in a resistance. Does the military follow the dictator's commands and launch F-16s against the resistance, or do they honor their oath and defend The Constitution? In this scenario, are those who support the unconstitutional government the patriots, or are those who interfere with the government the patriots? Do you think an "autocratic dictator" would be able to use our military to protect him from his foes, foreign or domestic? Or, do you think in this scenario the military would side with the resistance who want to remove him?

Sorry, not clicking a bunch of videos to try to distill whatever it is you're trying to say.

 

Irony

 

Are we assuming that Trump becoming dictator is a fait accompli or that he's been elected and actively subverting Government By the People, with the cooperation of Project 2025 recruits embedded throughout government institutions including the military?

In that scenario ... I don't know. It could likely be that it's too late and there is an active purge and persecution going on with the consent of the military. Which should be every American's fear of a second Trump presidency.

If he's elected and struggling to subvert our Constitution then it maybe that, in spite of many Project 2025 appointees and hires, there could be enough resistance within the Government and Military to stop him. It could happen that congress impeaches him a 3 time and actually removes him from office this time.

In either case I don't see American's rising up en masse and in arms to stop him. I think we rely on the guard rails of the Constitution until Government by the People and the Constitution have been supplanted with dictatorship.

Truthfully, IF we actually come to that crossroads, I don't think it's predictable what will happen.

 

FYI, play naive all you want, I doubt if they try it again, they would have less fun.

 

They are immune to all the bullshit like you see going on here and where ever else political junkie go to vent their sorry ass boring lives..

The young live in a much different world then we live in and grew up in.. They're seeing many of the things their parents made avaliable to them that they will never be available to them to make avaliable to their children..

And their not seeing either party making that happen economically..

More young adults are living at home across the U.S. Here's why.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gen-z-millennials-living-at-home-harris-poll/

 

LOL your handle is true Irony.

 

Indeed, it was some stupid thing I thought of like 15 or 20 years ago.

 

Aesop fox syndrome. his nanny state government doesn't trust him to own many types of firearms us Americans freely use and own

 

Where do you people come up with this stuff? Your guns will do nothing against the might of our military and police forces. Who are you going to shoot? These are fantasies not based upon reality. I suggest you stop for a minute and try to comprehend the damage our current gun policies are doing to all of us. We are killing each other with impunity under the false idea that doing so makes us free.

 

you really don't understand this issue. what our gun policies do-the ones foisted upon us by Democrats and RINOs is this
1) harass honest gun owners while making things safer for felons and mass murderers such as gun free zones
2) convince low wattage voters that these schemes actually make us safer
3) are designed to harass people who vote against Democrats while not actually impeding criminals

do you labor under the delusion that murder or felonious assault (not gun control laws) do not apply?

 

All of that is pure nonsense but I appreciate being reminded of the official NRA position on guns and gun safety. All other civilized nations on the planet have managed to avoid our constant slaughters and all of them remain free and safe compared to this nation. I suggest you divorce your personal ego from the issue and have some grasp of reality as it relates to gun violence and rational decisions about how to curtail it. We are not living in Virginia in 1790.