Why are our young men so effeminate?

Nothing. Its just dixie giving it ago, again...and failing, again.

 

So standing up to bullies is a sign of masculinity? Where is that written? Can you tell me where to find these "rules" to masculinity? I must have lost my copy.

 

The emo thing is pretty lame, but aside from that, I don't think we're becoming a "nation of sissies."

Half the time this stuff gets trotted out, it's usually coming from people with insecurities about their own masculinity.

It's kind of like how a lot of anti-gay politicians end up being revealed as having their own secret gay lives.

 

LOL, the Bard summed it up very well with this line from Hamlet - "The lady doth protest too much, methinks!"

 

These are silly questions. You might as well ask for a definition of "good". If you don't know it when you see it, that's only because you've been trained not to.

 

So you are a fan of Iran now?

You are fan of Islam as well?

Likely we would moderate them over time. Just like we have with the other cultures we have assimilated.

Well at least you can spell "rebuttals" correctly.

The millions of people trying to get in here every year think so. If you disagree...well...there's the door.

 

That's my whole point. You have to be trained to know what masculinity is. It is not something you are born knowing, therefore, depending on who is training them (parents, society, teachers etc...) different people will have different ideas of masculinity. Every culture defines its genders according to its own rules. Watch National Geographic once in a while, learn something.

As for the definition of "good", that is more ambiguous than gender. At least with gender one can define females as the gender that carries the babies and the males as the gender that supplies the sperm for fertilization and be safe to assume that is universal. The definition of "good" is so culturally dependent that it is impossible to define outside the context of the culture (besides the obvious dictionary definition).

 

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I don't know what you're talking about, Old man.Toy gun commercials are way more manly. Check out that explosion!

 

Funny you chose to do WW2 countries. Maybe the generation that started the worst war in the history of man was a bit TOO full of testosterone. Don't you think?

 

No you don't. You have to be trained into ignorance of it.

Yes it is.

your whole point is totally upside down and backwards.

So you've forgotten what good is as well. Hardly a surprise, seeing the two are inseparable from a human perspective.

 

Please back up your statements with some facts. There are hundreds of scientific articles that support the view that gender roles are cultural based. I have not seen any that support the gender roles are purely biological in nature.

As for "good", please give me an example of something that is "good" that is universal.

 

Since my claims are self-evidently true, there is no need.

I'm sure there are, given that what passes for science these days evidences no more rigor than in its determination to ignore metaphysical realities.

So?

Protecting the innocence of children, liberating the oppressed, standing up to tyrants with dignity...

 

Young people today are less virile, fertile and fecund than those of the past. It's a matter of body chemistry.

 

"Why are our young men so effeminate?"

Generalizing is so ineffective.... All is not lost, dont worry!

 

No they are not.

Metaphysical realities, that is an oxymoron is I ever heard one. And yes science ignores the metaphysical, because science deals with nature, not the metaphysical. That is what makes it science.

First of all innocence is culturally relative. The Spartans, whom you are so fond of, use to throw babies off cliffs and didn't think that evil. Oppression and tyranny are also relative. Didn't you ever hear the quote "One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist"?

 

Nonsense... men are taught throughout the world to be 'men' however their cultures define them.

 

Yes they are.

Then you favor an operating definition of science which ignores the substrate upon which the material world is built.

You obviously have no understanding of the term.

I never said I was fond of them.

Of course I am, but it only makes sense if "one man" loves freedom and "another man" loves tyranny.

 

What out young men are being taught is how to be effeminate by the Mommy-state liberals.

No toy guns
No contact sports
No rough-house play

 

No, dear... we're not just going to believe you just because you believe we should.

 

If this substrate is incomprehensible/unverifiable, there's nothing 'there' to ignore; science deals with physical things, not metaphysical.

 

Culture-war pap... none of these are widely prohibited by parents, and only the first is banned from schools (understandably so). It's a nontraversy.

But where exactly are you getting the idea that guns, sports, or rough-house play are masculine? Girls use/do this too... what's the connection?

 

I can see I am getting nowhere with you. So unless you can back up your statements with some kind of facts, I'm done here.

 

Yeah sure mate. Oh 'all conservatives are closet nazis'. See how both sentences are groundless and merely opinionated drivel? Differences is you seem to actually believe such delusional claims you present.

Evidence? No you wouldn't have any, would you? Dont make assertions without proof, otherwise they are simply ignorant opinions.

 

Couple of problems with your acid-rock-fried-brain-cells semi mentality here. First, Natural Born was referring to a particular group of people (Mommy-state liberals), and not painting them all with the same brush. Second, there are probably zero Conservative closet nazis since Nazism is national socialism--which is exactly what constitutes your modern day progressive/marxist, i.e your modern day liberal. So the deusion here seems to be emanating from 'YOU"!

 

The question isn't why are young men so effeminate. The question is: why are you using a 60 year old definition to describe masculinity.