How many people have to die before America legalizes drugs?

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  1. Catch

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    Social stability.
     
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    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    most drug addicts are non violent with the exception of a few like PCP guys.

    it would be best to legalize the non violent drugs
     
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    The smart thing to do would be to legalize most drugs, decriminalize the rest, and also offering education to encourage people not to use them.
     
  4. Jack Ridley

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    So the batons and the teargas and the pistols and the helicopters and the barbed wire don't actually hurt anybody?
     
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    They hurt those who hurt social stability.

    How is that smart. There is no logic behind it.
     
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    Ah, so there IS violence involved, isn't there?
     
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    And that is evidence of what? And, of course, you mean hooked on drugs prohibited by the government. I am sure, that for you, being hooked on a government approved drug is just fine. For instance, millions of children hooked on Ritalin is fine because it is approved of by government-licensed practitioners and provided by Big Pharma that works closely with the FDA.

    I didn't realize you were looking for logical reasons, as you've never allowed any of your reasons for anything to be held up to a rigorous logical examination. or, maybe you believe that your sophistry and rhetoric is actual logic. If that is the case, you are a very confused person.

    I haven't seen one logical reason for prohibition. There never was a logical reason for prohibition in the first place. Mostly it's about preventing competition for government licensed pharmaceutical companies and keeping minorities in their neighborhoods or in prison where they can't be too much harm to the dominant white majority.
     
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    A professional provides you with them, a professional does not provide you with cocaine.

    Prohibition of highly-addictive substances only makes sense. At least now we've reduced this argument to one of race.
     
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    What do you think is in painkillers?
    Why?
     
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    But we do it all the time. We don't ban alcohol even though we know know it can be dangerous if used irresponsibly. Instead we encourage people to drink responsibly. We teach people about the dangers of alcohol and hope they take it seriously.

    We don't ban junk food even though we know it can be dangerous if used irresponsibly. Instead we encourage people to eat junk food sparingly. We teach people about the dangers of junk food and hope they take it seriously.

    Are you saying these examples are illogical?
     
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    Irrelevant, a professional suggests it for you.

    Because recreational abuse of addictive substances of that caliber breeds no positives and creates enough problems of dependency to eliminate the 'freedom clause' that internet libertarians can use.

    Economically speaking, as is the only measure I'd use, it's disastrous.
     
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    How many people are killed per year over the distribution of alcohol or cigarettes per year?

    Cocaine is a prescribed drug in certain circumstance.
     
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    Who knows,

    My apologies, it is only Schedule II or so— you know what I meant, I hope, though.
     
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    If a professional suggests you drink sodium hydroxide with that stop your gullet from dissolving?
    Freedom is not a clause.
    But spending billions of dollars isn't?
     
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    The inability to buy life saving drugs without a doctors approval presumes I am too stupid to determine what I should put in my body. I cannot buy anti-biotics, which I cannot overdose on.

    I have a different take than the "yay drugs" people. I believe anything that I cannot overdose on, I should have access to. I can OD on cocaine. I can OD on heroin. You cannot OD on anti-biotics. You cannot OD on marijuana. More people die due to their illegal purchase than would vs their legality.

    If you have an argument to that, I will field it.
     
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    No professional would likely do that.

    It is indeed.

    It's the cheaper alternative.
     
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    You can OD on anything, actually— so that's not quite a good measure, perhaps not OD easily. But that puts out alcohol, which I don't think you'd want illegal.
     
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    What if they said you were a threat to social stability?
    To what? The loss of your soul?
     
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    I'd leave?

    Health costs, social opportunity elective, and the costs to others by multiple.
     
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    You are very wrong, iAWESOME.

    America does not have a drug problem.

    People who use illegal drugs have a drug problem!

    If you legalize illegal drugs, millions and millions of more people will try these drugs and many of these new users will now die of drug overdoses.

    Most people who use illegal drugs cannot stop on their own because these drugs as so addictive. If you legalize these drugs, you will simply drive up our national health care costs.

    It is really that simple.

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    The James Cessna and I agree, what the hell...
     
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    What, can you walk through iron bars?
    Again, worth more than your soul?
     
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    I wouldn't be behind them?

    The costs of the legalization of drugs is higher than the cost of keeping them criminal.
     
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    Can you measure freedom in dollars and cents?
     
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    Freedom is subjective. I prefer the freedom to keep drugs off the streets.
     

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