Palestine: the world's next recognized nation

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  1. The Judge

    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    Those Jews who have been there for the past 6000 years may remain. The other 7 million may return home to mostly Europe and Africa, unless they abandon their unconditional hatred of Semites.
     
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    Revisionist history...I cannot believe that some people still believe the Zionist propaganda...incredible.
     
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    beware dware as that comment put you on my bigot list
     
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    By the time of Christ most Jews lived outside of Palestine.

    Tens of thousands live in Alexandria.. others in Rome and what is now Spain and Portugal.

    They had spread out all around the Mediterrean.

    The claim of a forced diaspora is a Jewish myth.
     
  5. Dware

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    Hey bro, have it...give it you're best shot!

    Gonna need more than some rocks.

    Israel is here to stay my man....join the 21st century.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhdalQdtzfY"]‪IDF - Israel Military Power‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]
     
  6. Bishadi

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    bull....

    egypt ran canaan before a jew ever existed

    heck, egypt is where moses was born, raised and even learned what monotheism was.

    jews are arabs

    the amarna tablets proved unequivocally that egypt governed what is israel, before torah was ever written

    moses never even saw an israel

    geeze........... stop putting your foot in your mouth

    israelis have been digging for years trying to find evidence of judaism in israel prior to the torah and have not found a dam thing. They have found more egyptian artifacts than anything else

    because of terrorism. the zionist were bombing anything and everything british before the UN realized the bigots wanted palestine

    the US population of jews bought cruise liner, weapons and funded the whole issue because the US wanted a presence in the middle east as brittain ran the whole region from india to saudi arabia and it was oil that funded the whole progression
    but you cant read.

    you keep posting the tailmud of idiocracy, not history

    israel was a state for 20 yrs before the bigots took jeruselem, the golan and west bank in the 6 day war...... (it was not even a war, it was an attack with the use of US weapons, planes and funding)
    hell no...

    them bigots are too prideful. It would be like the US government admitting they were wrong and that wont happen either
    and before ww3 is over, both will be gone and the indigenous will be them 'last to first' as they can survive without a grocery store.


    dude you are on the wrong side
     
  7. moon

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    Not in any form you would recognize or desire.
     
  8. The Judge

    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    If the folks from Africa and Europe who live in Israel abandon their hatred of Semites and recognize and accept the nation of Palestine, then they are welcome to stay.
     
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    dont forget that the bigots have to give up jeruselem.

    That city is for 'ALL THREE RELIGIONS"

    The bigots aint going to move or touch that dome, no matter how bad they want to scarafice lambs and wish the mess of a man to show up.

    The whole world knows jeruselem is the 'gate of the gods' (meaning of the word babilu (which few know)) but all three religions of abraham have roots there and no matter how bad the bigots want to take it for their own................. it aint israel.


    United Nations Security Council Resolution 476, adopted on June 30, 1980, declared that "all legislative and administrative measures and actions taken by Israel, the occupying Power, which purport to alter the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem have no legal validity and constitute a flagrant violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention".

    The resolution was adopted by 14 votes to none, with the United States abstaining



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    United Nations Security Council Resolution 478, adopted on August 20, 1980, declared Israel's 1980 Jerusalem Law a violation of international law, and states that the Council will not recognize this law, and calls on member states to accept the decision of the council. This resolution also calls upon member states to withdraw their diplomatic missions from the city. The law declared Jerusalem to be Israel's "complete and united" capital.

    The resolution was passed with 14 votes to none against, with the United States abstaining


    those are wiki

    but here are the UN docs


    http://www.un.org/documents/sc/res/1980/scres80.htm
     
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    That's correct, but recognition of that enclave is simply a first step to liberation from Zionism. The pre-1967 borders will never be accepted as final borders by any Palestinian worth his salt.
     
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    Just who is going to force the Israelis to recognize the Palestinian state? Is the UN going to authorize military action against a nation with nuclear weapons. All the UN resolution is going to do is put Israel in a bad light (again) and allow Palestinians a permanent forum at the UN. Oh, and confirm that the United States puts Israel first and Palestine last.

    Moon's belief in the almost sacred nature of the Palestinian cause (somehow equating it with the struggle against South African apartheid in the previous generation of mindless leftists) tends to frequently ignore reality. The similar intransigence of the Palestinians has historically already cost them several chances to make a lasting peace with Israel and their current tactics and attitudes make it far more likely that Israel will get rid of Palestine than that the Palestinians will somehow get rid of Israel.

    There were 7.5 black South Africans for each South African Whitea nd almost as many Asians and Cape Coloured as there were South African Whites. In Israel/Palestine, by contrast, even if you include most of the Arab Israeli citizens, Israel has a population of almost 6 million while the Palestinians only have a little over 6.5 million. If you truly think Israel/Palestine is one country that's a scenario for civil war and the Israeli side has all the firepower. Better yet, the Palestinians have gradually withdrawn from the Israeli economy so that the Israelis could, with some pain, get along without them.
     
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    Likud are a bunch of fascist monkeys. That would be the perfect opportunity for Egypt , Jordan and the rest of the neighbors to revoke any previous agreements with Israel. At this rate of increasing stupidity even the Marshall Islands won't vote with the US of AIPAC.
     
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    The Palestinian state will fail if it does ever gain sovereignty.
     
  15. The Judge

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    Actually, Semites are not failures regardless of how strongly they may be hated.
     
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    Optimistic little soul aren't you?
     
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    great fact

    i liken them to nazi's.



    that is EXACTLY what is/will happen.

    All them 'neighbors' and even the world, already comprehend the palestinians are human beings. They already comprehend that gaza is an bonafide oppression to them human beings.

    it is the bigots, hypocrits and 'nazis' of pissyreal, that have represented them lives as being less than human and now the western governing body and many within, that actually believe the bigots. It is like the germans listening to adolf hitler and actually believing what he said.

    but the people, the world, the compassionate are tired of allowing leadership, media and bigotry run the show.

    we are in 'the times' and it will get far worse before it gets better.

    what people should be aware of is the bigots will kill themselves (begin ww3) before accepting responsibility and changing for the good of 'life'
     
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    Nah.. the Arab countries are poised to rapidly create infrastructive like desalination plants, roads, power plants, hosptials and clinics.. They have the money and expertise to do it.

    Their objective is to create JOBS .....

    They can also provide cheap oil and gas from Ghawar pretty easily.
     
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    Will Jordan become a Palestinian state?
     
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    Yet another Absurdity

    & you should read the UN Charter - Which by the way Israel signed
    & to which it is obligated Morally & Legally to adhere to
    & indeed would be forced to - BUT for American complicty
     
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    You convieniantly forget the agenda of Palestinian terrorists is to use the civil population and infrastructure as shields to either a) deter retaliation by Israel for their attacks against the Zionists or b) blame Israel for trying to destroy Palestine if they do retaliate and incur collatoral damage on civilians or infrastructure because of the terrorists strategy. You see the real problem for Palestine is from within. You defend them so you would know its a fundamental cornerstone of their philosophy to manipulate cause and effect to generate sympathy, like having huge funerals for suicide bombers and making them out to be martyrs etc. Its just hilarous at the westerners who go along with it, whilst its sad for the peaceful Palestinians.
     
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    Both sides seem to suffer from these problems you mention.

    The real problem is that people blame "those hated Semites" instead of examining their own faults. It is one's hatred of others which is the problem, not the actions of the hated.

    The hated Semites are just as innocent and guilty as those that hate them. Blaming "them" won't solve any problems.
     
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    More rubbish from you. Israel does not fight from behind its civilians and infrastructure so that terrorists retaliation can be manipulated to create sympathetic support. Dont bother answering if your not going to bother making any sense, seriously you just reinforce how nonsensical the Palestinian support base is.
     
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    The petrol states have shown such willingness to invest in the Palestinians that they are still among the poorest people in the Middle East. The Jordanians want to keep their buffer between Amman and Israel. The Arab elites have never demonstrated care for the Palestinians. How will a state which will be made up of the West Bank and Gaza, survive with Israel splitting the borders?
     
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    Then, why does Israel misuse Palestinians as human shields while viewing the illegal settlers as being "strategic buffers"?

    Amnesty International[18] and Human Rights Watch[19] assert the Israel Defense Forces used Palestinian civilians as human shields during the 2002 Battle of Jenin. The Israeli human rights group B'Tselem said that "for a long period of time following the outbreak of the second intifada, particularly during Operation Defensive Shield, in April 2002, the IDF systematically used Palestinian civilians as human shields, forcing them to carry out military actions which threatened their lives".[20][21] The practice was outlawed by the Supreme Court of Israel in 2005 but human rights groups say the IDF continues to use it, although they say the number of instances has dropped sharply.[20][22]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shield

    Israeli governments on both sides of the political spectrum have argued that the settlements are necessary for national security, as strategic buffers and outposts to Israel’s potentially, and often actually, hostile neighbors.
    http://www.municonference.org/uploads/2/9/3/7/2937528/gaiv_topic2.pdf

    Don't bother blaming the hated Semites when it is so easy to prove your argument as being heavily bloated with racism.

    I figured that you didn't have anything to back your reasoning with.
     
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