Two and a half hour explaination of everthing Creationism.

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  1. ptif219

    ptif219 Well-Known Member

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    What predictions?
     
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    Nice spin but we know they are fact. Explain how ape and man came from one species
     
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    Explain how god created people.
     
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    Evolution has NOTHING to do with how life starts. If Evolution was a 'thinking being" it would careless if Joey the 3 legged monkey started life, 'god' started life, or life arouse from primordial goo. Evolution could care less. It is only concerned with life once it forms.

    ABIOGENESIS is the study of how life arises from inert matter.

    Here is a video on Abiogenesis:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6QYDdgP9eg"]The Origin of Life - Abiogenesis - Dr. Jack Szostak - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    It has already been proven as fact. I suggest you educate yourself.

    The theory of evolution does not pertain to particle physics anymore than particle physics pertaining to evolution. The theory does not start in the middle to avoid explanation, it starts in the middle because that is the issue it handles. The evolution of life.

    There is already a field, abiogenesis that pertains to the beginning of life. Different fields studying different issues. The initial start of life has very little bearing on the evolution from there on.

    I suggest you educate yourself.
     
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    All great Apes (Gorillas, Chimpanzees, Orangutangs, and Humans) have 48 chromosomes except for one – humans. We have 46 chromosomes.

    So what does this have to do with predictions you ask?

    If Evolution was true, then we could predict that two chromosomes were fused together somewhere after us and our nearest cousin (the chimpanzee) split off from our common ancestor some 6-8 million years ago.

    Enter Human Chromosome 2. Human Chromosome 2 has has near-identical DNA sequence in the chimpanzees chromosome 2A and 2B. The key here is sequence and not just information. There is the fusion that if evolution were true, we would find. Two chromosomes (Chimps 2A and 2B) into one chromosome in humans. This is why We have 46 chromosomes vs 48 chromosomes.

    This also applies for gorillas and orangutangs. Human Chromosome 2 has has near-identical DNA sequence in the their chromosome 2A and 2B.

    This is the kind of predictions that we can make and find with Evolution.

    See above.
     
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    See all you like. Evolution is a fact. What you "see" won't change that.
     
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    Most climate scientists are just normal people like you and me with a 9-5 job. What political agenda could that be? I know a climate scientist myself and he is just a normal guy who believes in global warming because he thinks the science is strong.

    Those atomist (people who believe in atoms) just believe in atoms just for the grants. They know that if you deny the existence of atoms, you won't get any money.
     
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    Ummm, we don't expect to find rabbits in the precambrian maybe?
     
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    Explain how a binary quasar system operated.

    Do you want evidence for human evolution?

    Here are some direct quotes form talkorigins.

    One is the ψη-globin gene a pseudogene. Pseudogenes are very closely related to functional, protein-coding genes. The similarity involves both the primary DNA sequence and often the specific chromosomal location of the genes. The functional counterparts of pseudogenes are normal genes that are transcribed into mRNA, which is in turn actively translated into functional protein. In contrast, pseudogenes have faulty regulatory sequences that prevent the gene from being transcribed into mRNA, or they have internal stop codons that keep the functional protein from being made.

    This specific pseudogene is shared among the primates only, in the exact chromosomal location, with the same mutations that destroy its function as a protein-coding gene.
    http://talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section4.html
     
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    I have not said anything about that. I do see as much chance of that happening as the explanation or lack there of from evolution
     
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    You double talking. If it is about evolution why dos it not start where evolution starts. If they can not show where life stats how can they show where evolution starts. Wait thats right the beginning does not matter because it would interfere with there theory
     
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    Then why is it we do not know where evolution started

    Great a evolution propaganda film to give them a pass
     
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    Did you watch the video? It shows the beginnings of Evolution :rolleyes:
     
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    Scientists disagree what is closest some say orangutans. They can't even agree on that but we should believe they have facts

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/06/090623-humans-chimps-related.html


     
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    There is evolution I agree. Species evolve to adapt to their environment not to create a new species
     
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    So who pays Global Warming scientists?
     
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    Nice non- answer
     
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    OK, but that doesn't change Human Chromosome 2. Remember all 3 have the same exact sequences in Chromosome 2A and 2B. Humans have both of those chromosomes in one.

    So what does it matter if our nearest relative is the chimp, orangutang of gorilla? You are basically trying to throw a red herring here.

    You wanted proof of Evolution and proof that we are apes. I gave you proof. Dispute the proof (if you can). Give us a another plausible explanation.
     
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    http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2204609276&topic=36655

    http://darwinianfundamentalism.blogspot.com/2005/07/challenges-to-macroevolutionary-theory.html
     
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    It said abiogenesis is not evolution so i knew it was a propaganda film to justify evolution.

    I watched and it proved nothing it is another theory and no proof. If that is show where is evolution starting at that point?

    The doctor that made that is experimenting trying to prove his theory it has no facts just Opinions and assumptions


    http://www.hhmi.org/research/investigators/szostak_bio.html


     
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    Which is why this is just laughable.
     

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