Stephen Hawkins Says Idea of Afterlife a "fairy tale"

The problem with your argument is that he has no proof that something does not exist. When popular science insisted that the world was flat, what happened next, genius?

 

yeah anointing oils and circumcision are rituals of the Catholic church as well, want me to tell you Jesus was a Catholic now???

wanna know what else is a Catholic tradition???? keeping holy the Sabbath, how about that lol.

just saying dude like i said before, i dont think you can really classify Jesus as truly being part of any religion.

 

Well... yeah... but... Christianity is a revisionist religion. It took Judaism and changed some of it. Mormons then came, for instance, and took Christianity... and changed some of it.

Of course they share some of the ritual.


The question is, if Jesus was not a Jew, why engage in those 3 specific rituals I mentioned? They were just holy by accident? Complete happenstance that these idiot Desert folk coincidentally followed? Smearing oil on yourself actually DOES make you more Godly, but these fools were just "lucky" to have been doing it for 1500 years?

I mean... even addressing the blood sacrifice of Christ is weird given the context...

Here... let's start here.

Matthew 10:5-6
These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Matthew 15:24
I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Acts 16:6
Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia.

Jesus was a Jew dood.


*Oh and by the way... I didn't say he observed the Sabbath... I said he held to the JEWISH RITUALS of sabbath most of the time. Muuuuch different animal than the simple "don't work" most Christians ignore...

Not the Mormons actually... they hold the Sabbath sacred. Funny that.

 

You are totally confused. You think you know such much about the different religions, but in reality you are totally confused.

The fact that you believe that Christians and Muslims are the same is totally messed up. You can't argue with someone who's mind is made up, and apparently yours is, wrong as it may be.

 

I gave you a link that was not "the Bible" - so quit blowing smoke.

Yeah, sure, your source is "fact" because you say it's fact?

 

I addressed every single one of your claims, and all of your links that were not the hieroglyphs, which I addressed, were from nobody fundamentalists, with no credibility among the religion you proclaim.

You see... you think I am the minority in this argument, when actually it is you. MOST Christians do not take the bible as literally as you do, and no non-Christians do. So you are going to have to try harder than "this guy who says what I want to hear" as a reference point sir.

My sources, plural, indeed every authority on the subject.

The Septuagint predates Christ by 150 years. It is the defacto most original, unadulterated source of the Old Testament...

I can upload the images of the words as they were penned.

The Dead Sea Scrolls are available as well.


You DO REALIZE that the bible was not written in English... right?

And the POINT of the 1611 bible was to derive a more accountable translation from...


What, pray tell, do you think they were translated from?

I am unaware of a single biblical scholar, fundamentalist or otherwise, who questions the validity of the Septuagint.

You want to question my sources? Do so. Discredit them. HAHAHA is not an argument. Wage one or shrink back into the dark.

You question my research without doing a thing to research it for yourself... well... I question yours.

Who was King James?

How was your bible canonized?

Go ask your preacher, and come back to me after you have prayed on it.

BTW... what is your theory on Acts 7:45? I am assuming you are a KJV guy, though you haven't specified... most of your minority are... and you will plug your ears and trill... and invoke the holy trinity like a child hiding from monsters under a blanket... this trinity btw.


I wish you luck with that.

Don't reply until you have actually read the bible cover to cover.

I have read dozens. You haven't read yours. You know how I know? You are still a fundamentalist and you aren't in jail or making money off of fundamentalists.

You swear to God you have read it it if you are going to make the claim. You swear in Jesus' name.

 

Rare is such a well written burn created on these forums.

 

Interesting how I got no answer to such a simple question.

 

Ok, granted - there's no proof an afterlife doesn't exist.

Then again, there's no proof an afterlife does exist. Without proof, where did the rumours come from?

 

How are they rumors? Maybe there have been people that have seen it and come back from it, for all you know. Whatever the afterlife is, it is obviously a personal thing. Stephen Hawking is a crippled, arrogant idiot for trying to tell us how the Universe works, when he obviously is as naive as the rest of us about it.

 

A dying brain is a pretty (*)(*)(*)(*)ed-up thing. There's no reason to believe anything they see.

If you asked Stephen Hawking if there was an afterlife, I'm quite sure he would say he doesn't know. Is he really telling you how the universe works? It seems to me that he was merely comment on the origin of the rumours - that they were made up.

 

That's the thing about rumors. Everything from a spherical Earth to black holes were all considered to be rumors until they were actually confirmed to exist. The afterlife should not be dismissed by a self-proclaimed "scientist" so quickly. Especially one that claims to have some degree of credibility. These "rumors" of an afterlife came from somewhere. You would think that a true scientist would want to find out where they come from rather than dismiss them so suddenly.

 

It's pretty clear some are more naive than others.

 

It's quite simple, Meat. Show me Stephen Hawking's credentials regarding the afterlife. Oh! That's right, he doesn't have any.

 

Let's just hope you get to see it before he does.

 

I feel the same way about you, heathen. The funny thing is that Hawking's crippled ass will be there long before I get there. Then I get to rub it in his face when I get there and laugh at him for being so wrong.

 

And you are basing this on...?

 

Not so, my confused little friend.

If you're relying on age, you're a fool.

Young people are killed in car accidents every day. Think about that the next time you take a drive out of the trailer park to go buy some grits. Are you sure that every driver on the road is safe? Hmmm ?

Buckle up my boy

 

The same thing that Stephen Hawking is basing it on. Nothing.

 

He is sure to find out before I do whether or not there is an afterlife. For his sake, he'd better hope that there is one, so that at least he can walk and talk for once, the crippled bastard.

 

If you believe that, you're actually sillier than I thought (highly unlikely though).

You may die of a heart attack in your sleep tonight: think about that while you're trying to figure out what that strange pain is in your left arm

 

Or I might not. That slovenly, sloppy crippled bastard has more of a chance of dying than I do. I'm a perfectly healthy individual that leads a healthy life. I mean seriously, look at how pathetic that these wastes of life are.

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Doesn't that seem eerily similar to a fairy tale?

 

So whose fairy tale is more relevant? Hawkin's or Christianity's? Your argument is going absolutely nowhere, son. Just like his.

 

Mr. Hawking has earned great reknown for knowing a great deal about things that he knows about.

Despite the obvious evidence of a universe so vast and complex that no one, not even Mr. Hawking, can even comprehend or fathom it, he holds that it was not created by anything or anyone.... And he offered indisuputable proof for this conclusion, too... right? No?

Now he's postulating that life does not extend beyond the physical plane. And the world swoons at this completely unsupported "insight"? No?

He should stick to issuing pronouncements about things he knows about, for everything else is conjecture and "coffeetable talk"....