Stephen Hawkins Says Idea of Afterlife a "fairy tale"

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  1. tomteapack

    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Anyone who believes in superstitious nonsense, has stupid beliefs!!!
     
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    that sounds like crazy evangelicals, they are really sunk in their beliefs and have not a drop of respect or tolerance for anyone elses beliefs. hell they give (*)(*)(*)(*) to anyone thats not one of them, so dont feel bad, its not just atheists getting the "you are going to hell" (*)(*)(*)(*) lol.

    hell im catholic and i was told im going to hell. cant remember the exact religion my boss followed but he said since i wasnt baptised "their way", in their giant bath tub, i was not saved by God lol.

    its actually pretty easy though to (*)(*)(*)(*) them off, i have fun with them lol.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Extremely loud applause, cheering, stomping, jumping up and down, screaming and fainting at the literate, accurate and succinct method of stating facts.
     
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    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

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    christianity got christianity from christ dude lol. just sayin. jews are a completely different thing.
     
  5. snakestretcher

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    I know, I see the contrails every day. Rolls-Royce jet power.
     
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    Christ was a Jew dude, just sayin'
     
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    pass that over here , Geddon , man , that's some fantastic weed you're smoking , to make you publicly castrate yourself like you did.. [​IMG]

    [​IMG] Mertex is right , and you owe Mertex an apology ... [​IMG]

    and you owe all Baptists an apology as well , [​IMG]
     
  8. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    I'm not arguing right and wrong. I'm addressing unwarranted criticism and completely unnecessary references.
     
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    No, no they cannot. They are facts.

    The bible is accurate because the bible says it is accurate? Seriously? What version of the bible are you using btw? Oh... you aren't. You are copy and pasting fundamentalist interpretations. I see. You do understand that the New Testament was written in Koine Greek right? I am about to blow your mind.
    From your example of Philippians 2:10 (KJV)
    The original Koine Greek:
    http://www.greekbible.com/index.php

    Now... from the Old Testament
    Let's go with Joshua 1:1
    And here is the Koine Greek (this, by the way, is from the oldest known OT the Septuagint).
    http://www.septuagint.org/LXX/Joshua/1

    See any similarities? Sweet. Now... I would like you to take a look at Acts 7:45 (KJV)
    The context clearly demonstrates that rather than Jesus, the passage is referring to Joshua, son of Nun, Moses' servant. This is why every version but the KJV reads Joshua. Because it is a mistake in translation... because it is the same name.

    (Koine Greek)
    (NKJV)
    (NIV)
    etc... You will find the same problem in Hebrews 4:8.


    Wanna know what Jesus name was in straight Aramaic? Eashoa

    Because of the pronunciation in Hebrew it sounds more like "dYeushuah" The closest thing in English is J... which, again, didn't exist until the 14th... and wasn't used much until the 15th, to replace the Old English dʒ... and, btw, is an almost identical sound to the hieroglyphic we now CALL J, because it is the closest sound to that... which... again... is what I said to begin with.
    [​IMG]


    Your Lord's name was Yeshua. Fact.
     
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    That took me over 4 hours to put together, using his examples, translating in Koine Greek, Modern Greek, Latin, and Aramaic. I just kept to Koine because that is the language of the NT and the oldest known bible... which gives me further the ability to show the dead sea scrolls themselves backing these facts up. Why would he think there are 50+ bibles, translated through 4 languages, and THEIR version was right and ALL others are wrong, and be afraid to do the research themselves?

    I would argue that Mertex is afraid of the dark, and no matter how much light I shine on the fact that he doesn't know the name of his God, he will never, ever, ever see it... through wilful ignorance.

    I believe my criticism is warranted. Necessary? Opinions are never necessary... but sometimes appreciated. I appreciated Mr. Hawkings. If you cannot appreciate the demonstration I just made to highlight this... you are simply going to have to believe that Mr. Hawking and I are bad people.

    I guess I will just live with that.
     
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    Forget it. I have no idea how I can repeat what I've already stated here.
     
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    That was (*)(*)(*)(*)ed impressive!
     
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    jesus didnt teach judaism, and also was baptised by John. just sayin.
     
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    wow good for you, you know how to use the smiley's :fart:.

    i am doing no such thing but telling the truth, i owe nobody an apology. you cant lump many different groups together when they dont even believe in the same things or teach their religion the same way. and im not gonna apologize for groups who plagiarized a religion to make it their own and pretend they are the only way lol. Baptists didnt even come around till the late 16th or early 17th centuries, with the first one in America not being until the 1800's .

    you want me to give credit to religions who just branched off anothers idea and just flipped a few things around? yeah sorry but no, i go by history and not by religion when it comes to this.

    and once again, since you wanna say Baptists are the same as protestants and evangelicals then you must say they are the same thing as Islam lol, simply because all these religions have christian roots and all branched off the christian religion by using it and making their own version out of it.

    sorry it sucks but thats the truth, i didnt come here to be nice and sugar coat.
     
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    It's his opinion and he is entitled to this. And although it doesn't make any difference when handing out opinions...Hawking might be correct...
     
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    But it is not unwarranted. Science and religion cannot find consensus! As a scientist Hawking is simply stating his opinion about 'fairy tales'. If someone is upset by this comment, they should just ignore it and get on with their business. If a person feels challenged by Hawking's comments, then they should take a look at things to either reaffirm their position or make adjustments...
     
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    John was Jewish too, and baptism a Jewish ritual.
     
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    With all due respect, Stephen Hawking is full of crap. There is no evidence either way that there is or is no afterlife. Hawking has bitten off more than he can chew over all this because he has absolutely no authority whatsoever to make such a bold statement.
     
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    No that's not effective debate. You can't say that there is no proof that something doesn't exist. It is something like a double negative. The issue is that Hawking is a scientist so he deals with observable or at least calculable facts. The after life is a belief. There is nothing obeservable or caluclable about it. All Hawking is saying is that, since there is no evidence of an after life, then it is a belief rather than a scientific issue.

    There is no point in debating it because scientists put no value on beliefs.
     
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    thats not how science works. Thee is no evidence of no ghosts,so you believe in ghosts as well?

    Of course he has, anyone has. Who are you to judge someones belief in fairy tales?
     
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    ok, show me where what Jesus practiced was Judaism and you will have a point. mind you Judaism was before Jesus, so imsure had he spread the Jewish religion it would have been well documented he did so correct? now show me.
     
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    He was brought up in Judaism, learning from his debates at the Temple, etc. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are know as the Abrahamic faiths. Google will tell you why that is.
     
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    Unfortunately, he's right :-(
     
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    His title, as King of the Jews, was the anointed one (messiah/Christ both mean anointed). Anointing oils were part of Jewish purity rituals. He was circumcised.


    Those are the two that pop right off...

    He also usually obeyed the traditions of the Sabbath, but not always.
     
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    ugh i know that, we been through this. he sure as hell wasnt the king of the Jews when he was alive, you know considering the Jews killed him lol.

    anyways the method in which he preached and such was hardly Jewish in tradition. he wasnt an orthodox jew by any means, he was different and so were his teachings. im not saying he himself was christian either, that didnt come till after his death as well.

    Jesus really lived by no label other than the "son of god" and did what he could to spread his word. as far as religion i dont think you can classify him as any, he did his own thing really.
     
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