Who is the worst president of all time?

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  1. Wildjoker5

    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    I would have to say FDR or Woodrow Wilson. Those 2 progressives put this country into a tailspin.
     
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    LBJ's war on poverty has cost us $16 trillion in debt and hasn't done crap.
     
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    Eisenhower really?
     
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    SpotsCat New Member Past Donor

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    Maybe y'all oughta look at this article ranking the former Presidents.

    It seems that the President who is consistently at or near the bottom of every list is Warren G. Harding.
     
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    Looking at that page, Clintons rating improved after his presidency ended. As someone said earlier, history is going to be the real judge.
     
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    Well, I hate to tell all you rabid libertarians this, but academics much better qualified than you to judge said this:

    But what do "238 presidential scholars at U.S. colleges and universities" know?
     
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    Nobody can answer sincerely this question because there is no chance that someone knows the names of the whole presidents. So this cluster has to shut down.
     
  8. Wildjoker5

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    How to get government grants for ranking presidents in order according to the ones that suit the overall progressive spirit of the American politics.
     
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    I'd have to say that Bush II was the worst modern President based solely on the fact that he orchestrated the baseless invasion of Iraq.
     
  10. Wildjoker5

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    How about JFK for his baseless invasion of Veitnam? More American lives were loss and much less accomplished from that war.
     
  11. Jason Bourne

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    No, we had a treaty obligation to S. Vietnam and the communist north was a clear threat. The loss of life was regrettable and the withdrawl for political reasons and public pressure was disgusting but it was a justified war.

    Bush II is by far the worst modern President.
     
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    There is no obligation to other countries that is more important than our own soldiers lives. Fighting Veitnam had no bearing on our countries security, just as Iraq and Iran has zero bearing on our security.
     
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    He didn't "win" 2 terms. He stole 2 terms. First in 2000, by ballot tampering (double punching Gore vote cards and discarding them) and by computer vote-flipping in 2004. Did you think we were going to forget this quickly ?
     
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    HA HA HA. State's rights is it now ? That's a good one. Yeah right ! And which state's rights were those, huh ? There's only one state's "right"
    that was in question. The "right" to conduct slavery. Well, when you offer yourself up to someone who decides they want YOU to be their slave, THEN you can talk about state's rights, OK ?

    And Obama stole the presidency ? But no mention of Bush 43 having done that twice ? Wow.

    I could say more about your other notes (FDR, Reagan) but you've already shot your credibility to hell and back.
     
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    HIS unwillingness to work with the Republicans ? HAHA HA. Oh my sides. Uh, EARTH to birddog : currently 72% of the American people (including many Republicans) are supporting HIS jobs bill, which the country desperately needs, while the Republicans are the ones who are unwilling to work with him, and support what will help suffering Americans, all to push their political standing. In doing so, these Republican morons are flushing their political standing right down the toilet, as more and more Americans are supporting Obama (now going up in the polls), even in spite of his awful positions on such things as immigration, Islamization, and affirmative action.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/11/02/1032516/-Obamas-Up-and-Cain-Surviving-11-2-11
     
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    Yes, support for another stimulus, because the last one did so much help. :omg:
     
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    Polk was one of the best. After the Mexican-American War and the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in which Mexico ceded all of present-day California, Nevada and Utah as well as most of Arizona, New Mexico and Colorado to the United States, Mexico relinquished all claims to Texas and recognized the Rio Grande as the southern boundary of the United States. Polk was infuriated that the US did not receive ALL of Mexico, after 13,000 Americans died in the war.

    Polk was spot on with that. History proves him right. Ever since, Mexico has been invading the US, not with military, but with its poor people, illegally coming here and stealing Americans' jobs as well as ripping off America's wealth. FYI, Mexico has been ripping the US for $25 Billion/year in remittances alone (Mexicans sending $$$ back to Mexico). That's a huge amount of money to be leaving our economy, and being reinserted into Mexico's. By any measure, this is imperialism, and Mexico has been succeeding in it for a long time. In fact, the only US president that I am aware of having done anything about it is Eisenhower, who presided over Operation Wetback in 1954. Cheers for him too. I shouldn't forget that Mexico is also stealing tens of Billion$$$/year from the US by way of the anchor baby racket and illegal aliens using false IDs, and helping themselves to American taxpayer dollars in welfare. They take more of it than Americans do.
     
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    It's not a stimulus, it's a different thing entirely, but you can show us how much you don't know, if you must.
     
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    It will be that indeed, with Obama racking up the biggest victory, and the stupid Republicans did it. They hung themselves by opposing this recent jibs bill that the whole country is supporting (including many Republicans).
     
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    Vietnam was a justified war ? Sheeeesh ! Apparently you don't know the history. Vietnam was absolutely UNjustified and still remains a terrible disgrace to America. I go so far as to blame my favorite president (Eisenhower) for getting us into that fiasco. He wanted tin and tungsten, and wound up with 58,000 dead Americans, all to prevent the Vietnamese from having democracy, by way of the elections that the Geneva Convention called for. Ho Chi Minh would have won easily. That's who the Vietnamese wanted. That's who they should have had. And there was no such thing as NORTH Vietnam and SOUTH Vietnam. Those were merely temporary designations from the Geneva agreement, to facilitate ending the war. The election was to have decided who would rule Vietnam (one whole country), but Eisenhower stepped in in 1956 with US troops and prevented it.
    Lastly, Ho Chi Minh was a socialist, not a communist. He was a fierce nationalist. An ideology diametrically opposite to communism. And after the war, there proved to be no domino effect.
     
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    I would nominate Reagan as the worst. He ran up huge deficits, but his worst offense was completely changing the definition of a Conservative from something that, before him, was a good thing, and now is a terrible thing. Before Rich Ronny, Conservatism meant high taxes on the rich (91-92% 1951-1963) supporting a big, strong government that was effective in national defense and homeland security.

    Now after Reagan's 28% tax on the rich, and 30 years of UNDERtaxation, and his ideal of small government being good, we have debt, deficit, and a weak government that can't afford to hire ICE agents to arrest illegal aliens, can't afford to hire FBI agents to go after Muslim savages AKA "jihadists", can't afford to adequately supply our troops fighting in Afghanistan, and can't afford to function. And for what ? So that rich folks (like Ronny was) can be protected from taxation, to feed their GREED.

    What a contrast between Reagan (a PSUEDO-conservative) and Eisenhower (a TRUE conservative). Ike kept the richies' taxes high, and had a big, strong government with a strong defense. In Operation Wetback, his INS agents chased the Mexican illegal alien invaders back to Mexico, by going around house to house and hunting them down. What did Reagan do ? He gave them amnesty.

    And during World War II, when Ike was protecting the American people as the Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in Europe, Reagan was in Hollywood making movies about it.

    Lastly, I voted for Reagan in 1980 because I wanted something done to stop affirmative action. I don't remember him ever doing anything about it at all.
     
  22. Wildjoker5

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    Right, you lefties are a trip. Just cause you call it by another name, doesn't make it something different. It has the same intentions as the origional, it has the same process as the origional. The only difference between this one and the previous one is that they attach a tax hike for the rich to say it is paid for.
     
  23. Phoebe Bump

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    Yeah, it's just you. Reagan will go down is history as the 2nd worst president. His clownie protege, Bush, will go down as the worst, but only because he thought he was Reagan.
     
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    Ike was probably the United States last great president.
     
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    Talk about bassackwards! WOW! :bored:

    Reagan was one of the few best, Bush 43 was mediocre, and Obama is the worst!
     

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