I think that the ones who best represented by values were the best and the ones that were most counter to my values are the worst.
How about...Who stuck to the constitution the best? FDR is out of the picture Wilson would have been in Jail. Bush tried, but still went outside the constitutional set power for the POTUS. Obama should just be impeached for the crap he has done.
All that's very touching but it doesn't change the fact that we had treaty obligations to S. Vietnam just as we did in Korea. The objective was to stop the threat of communist takeover. While I'll agree with you that Iraq was a mistake, Iran poses a real regional threat if it develops nuclear weapons or indicates a willingness to confront Israel or Iraq militarily.
HA HA HA. "To say it's paid for" ? Pheeeww ! High-pitched whistle. It IS paid for. And I am a conservative, not a leftie, A TRUE Conservative as I described in post # 46. Maybe you're too young to know what a real conservative is.
FALSE ! We did NOT have treaty obligations to any place called South Vietnam because, in reality, there was no such thing as South Vietnam. The north and south designations were not official. There were just to allow the troops loyal to Ho Chi Minh to disperse to one place and those loyal to the French to go elsewhere. That doesn't make official nations. They were only to be that way until a national election decided who would rule all of the country (ONE country). In 1956, the puppet leader installed by the French, Diem, proclaimed he would not step down, and there would be no election. Only thing allowing this to happen was Eisenhower's troops, or Diem, very unpopular, would have been hung the next day. As I stated already, Ho Chi Minh was not a communist, and 1975 proved there never was any threat of expansionism (of any kind). I will agree with you about Iran though. If I were president, depending on all the intelligence available, I might have attacked Iran already. Do unto others before they do unto you.
The high priests of the Cult of Expertise have spoken. The matter is settled. The Cult of Expertise knoweth the answer even to questions that are clearly matters of subjective opinion.
So, you are a libertarian? Cause other than that, you are a "TRUE conservative" as in the way democrats were "true conservatives" from 1850 to 1970s. Edit: So I read what you put, and can see you are a REAL progressive. Conservatives don't want big government. If you are going to try to go into the past and pick what you "really are", get all the way back to Jefferson or Hamilton. I am a Jeffersonian. You can't be a fiscal conservative if you are spending money on big government. The goal of conservatism is to spend as little bit of money while still providing the basic tenants provided by the constitution.
You just proved what I said. You're apparently too young to know what a TRUE Conservative is. You must have been born after 1970, grew up in the Reagan era (or after) and got all your political exposure to the PSUEDO-conservatism created by Reagan, and never knew the REAL COnservatism before that era. No TRUE conservatism does NOT want little spending and small government. That promotes a small, weak government that is not well able to provide for a strong national defense and homeland security. A TRUE Conservative government is one like that of Dwight D. Eisenhower, commander of Allied Forces in Europe in WW II, and staunch defender of America from Nazis, Japs, Russians, North Koreans, uncivilized Muslim barbaric savages from any country, and whoever else. Get it ? Ike also chased the Mexican illegal laien invaders back to Mexico in 1954, in Operation Wetback, before Reagan came along and gave them amnesty. BTW, the tax on the rich during Ike's 8 years was 91-92%, he was a Republican, and more Conservative than any president we've ever had. Yiu have a distorted idea of Conservatism because you came along a little late. PS - Hell no, I'm not a Libertarian. A Libertarian is nothing but a small/weak government Republican who wants to do drugs.
No its not just you.we have definetely seen the two worst presidents in us history in the last two presidents we have had.You hit the nail right on the head.Every president that gets into office is more evil and corrupt than the previous one dating back to nov 22nd 1963 the last real president we had who was for the people instead of serving the establishment.since every president we have had since 1963 has been worse and more corrupt than the previous one,expect that to continue from here on out.I never thought anybody could possibly be worse than Clinton,Bush was,Never thought it was possible for anyone to be worse than Bush jr,Obama is expanding and accelerating everything Bush got started so yeah expect the same ole same ole to continue as long as we have this corrupt two party system.we need a third party president from the grassroots in office.
dude thats not even close.carter was the only half way decent president we have had since kennedy.the three biggest sellouts would Be 1.Obama 2.Bush jr 3.Clinton
yeah Dick Nixon would for sure be in the top 5.I put him at number four for the reasons you listed not to mention he put a fascist dictater in power who murdered millions.
Abe Lincoln...the original Big Brother. A man so obsessed with consolidating power that he didn't mind sacrificing 600,000 Americans to get his way. Everyone else is just variations on a theme. Lincoln created the template for big government.
exactly.could not say it better.Nobody throughout history is worse than the current presidents we have had since 1980.
those professers are only doing what the establishment pays them to.post lies and propaganda.If they ever viewed the obama deception video,they would know that every president since 1963 that has got into office has been the most evil and corrupt president ever throughout history and that every one that gets in these days is worse than the previous one.
thats the most moronic post on this thread hands down.JFK only sent in advisors.He never sent in combat troops and its a known fact he was going to completely withdraw from vietnam by 1965.That was drawn up in his memo 263 so the establishment had to get rid of him.after his assassination,Johnson signed memo 273 REVERSING kennedys policy on vietnam and esculated the war.JFK inherited the war from Eisenhower and was not following Eisenhowers policys.LBJ esculated what Eisenhower tried to get started.
