The Nuclear Annihilation of Israel?

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  1. heywhatsup

    heywhatsup New Member

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    I think no one is gonna nuke anyone
    countries just getting nukes to intimidate their enemies but no one would actually dare to trigger a nuclear bomb and kill all these people and then face the consequences.
    even Ahmedinejad is not that dumb
     
  2. John1735

    John1735 Banned Past Donor

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    Tell that to the three thousand dead Americans in N.Y. city.
    Oh we aren't supposed to discuss the FACT that American support of Israel has and is the reason such nutjobs like Al-queda has attacked and killed innocent American citizens.

    No the response should be, fine thats ok. Nuke Israel out of existence.

    When you do though, the United States is going to do the same to you.
    In Fact the ICBM's will be landing moments after you launch such an attack against Israel.

    Note the Period too,those of you who are pro-arab Islamist.
     
  3. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Are you familiar with the beliefs of Shia "Twelvers"? They believe the 12th imam will only return after a cataclysmic confrontation between good and evil on the earth has occured.
     
  4. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Is this similiar to the Christian beliefs about Armageddon, the "end of days" and the return of Christ? Seems that many religions have these weird-ass ideas that some of the fundamentalist wackos believe.
     
  5. liberalminority

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    agreed a stronger Israel in the middle east is not good for Russia since they are a key ally with the US in that region

    russia is already making claims to the media that the use of its own nuclear weapons are becoming more likely instead of conventional warfare with its enemies on its border
     
  6. Slyhunter

    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    Ahmedinejad believes in the 13th imam so yes he is that dumb.
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Note, just noting it's enemies and then mentioning the probability.
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is a ideological war between civilization (Israel) and barbarians (the rest of the middle east). The left crawled under the rocks with the barbarians decades ago and now cannot find the exit.
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But only one fundamentalist wacko group is actively working to hasten the event through murder and savagery...
     
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    Looking forward to total annihilation that will be started by the Israelis, you can bet your last dollar. They no doubt have one missile aimed at Washington D.C. just for old times sake. They will do some stupid (*)(*)(*)(*) like bomb Iran, and then a nuke will go off somewhere in Israel, and then all hell breaks loose. It is just a matter of time, because the dumb (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s are too fanatical about their superior religions and God being on their side or Allah and the 12th Emom being on their side, or whatever the F the bastards think. Hope they all die together.
     
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    The problem isn't that he is STUPID...the problem is that he is INSANE!
     
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    he is employed to appear insane by the mullahs

    if israel bombs iran it will become a martyr in the mid east and russia and china may nuke israel and the holy land will be returned to the muslims in pieces
     
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    Was that intended to make sense? If so, it failed utterly.
     
  14. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The probability of Iran attacking Israel with a nuclear weapon at the moment is zero because Iran doesn't have any nuclear weapons. The probability of Iran launching an offensive nuclear attack on Israel if it were to obtain a nuclear weapon in the future is virtually zero. Iran has no history (since the Iranian Revolution) of initiating offensive wars against other nations.

    That cannot be said of Israel which does have nuclear weapons and a long history of attacking other nations.
     
  15. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But Iran does have a long history of violence through prxie and simply crazy actions...
     
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    The probability of Israel attacking Iran with a nuke is pretty low as it is a weapon of last resort and there are still a lot of alternative moves to be taken as evidenced by the mysterious explosions at missile bases, dead nuclear scientists, and debilitating computer viruses.

    The probability of Iran making a first strike is not guaranteed at all. Iran has a 32 year history of initiating action against other countries by proxy. The proxy wars are large, bold, in many countries, and have taken many victims. Further, using Hezbollah as a weapon, Iran has attacked Israel a number of times already.
     
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    Pretty tired of your deception here Ironball.

    Lets just rip your painting of iran here with a simple analogy - the USA has a much longer history of both direct war, and proxy support - does that make it more likely to nuke its enemies? Pakistan has the same history of proxy support in the Kashmir, same for it?

    By the way, supporting various regimes in the world, how many nations has the usa attacked?

    Game set match.
     
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    Clever little analogy but flawed with a lot of wishful thinking and not a little bias.

    Yes the US has much longer history of war and proxy support against despots and tyrannical regimes. The record is pretty clear. The US, with an arsenal available to destroy the world countless times over, has the best record for nuclear safety and security in the world.

    Iran sponsors terrorists. Iran has one of the worst human rights records on the globe. Your deflection to the U.S. record is humorous.

    Regardless, 6 Arab countries, Israel, and every GOP candidate but one has said that Iran will not be allowed to have one base on their record of the past 32 years.

    Don't despair, perhaps they can find a country willing to back up their aspirations? :wink:
     
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    Israel has done nothing except defend itself from terrorism. You can't blame Israel for wanting to continue to exist despite the Palestinians attempts to shove them into the sea.
     
  20. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Hezbollah does not take operational instructions from Iran and we certainly can't condemn a nation from furnishing weapons to militias as the US does it all of the time often supporting organizations that commit acts of terrorism. Israel, because it has so few allies, generally uses it's own terrorist organization (Mossad) which engages in acts of terrorism, international kidnappings and murder.

    Of course the very existance of Hezbollah is because of an Israeli invasion of Lebanon. That the people of Lebanon would organize a militia to combat the invasion of their nation by a foreign country is not surprising. If a person actually reviews history all of the conflicts related to Israel are because of Israel's actions. Everyone else is basically fighting a defensive war against the government of Israel because of Israeli aggression.
     
  21. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    PLEEEEEZZZZEEE.

    Israel itself was founded based upon the violations of the Rights of the non-Jewish population of Palestine. Israel started the Arab-Israeli War in 1948 with it's Declaration of Independence that violated the Rights of the non-Jewish population in Palestine. Israel is responsible for the wars against it by it's continued violations of the Rights of the non-Jewish population in Palestine.

    This is not to excuse many of the actions against Israel but Israel is reaping what it's sowed.
     
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    Not more than 15 years ago, this statement would be whole-heartedly supported by the majority of people. Today...not so much...thank Gawd.

    The Arab world. Much of it soaked in "sweet-oil" reserves. And right smack in the middle of it all...Israel. A nation that produces nothing...contributes nothing but problems to the world stage...is an affront to the senses of probably every living Arab person if not every Muslim person...

    If one has cancer...does one surgically remove all the organs around the tumor to make room for it to grow...or does one surgically remove the tumor itself...
     
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    It is not often when one encounters a full sized post with not a single thing in it true....congratulations!
     
  24. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Just to touch on a very small amount of evidence to support the claims that the Zionists of Israel have been the provocateurs of the Israeli-Arab conflicts:

    Pre-Israel acts of "zionist" terrorism.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_political_violence

    The Israeli Declaration of Independence (Declaration of War) in 1948 in violation of UNGA Resolution 181.

    http://stateofisrael.com/declaration/

    The Armistice of 1949 between Israel and Jorden where Israel acknowledged that the territories occupied by Israel did not belong to Israel and that the non-Jewish residents of towns and villages under occupation were to be allowed to return and the Israeli military withdrawn from those towns (e.g. Jerusalem)... which Israel never complied with after signing the agreement.

    http://www.historycentral.com/Israel/Documents/ISRAELJordanONARMISTICE.html

    Confiscation of Arab land in Israel violating the Rights of Property.

    http://www.progress.org/land28.htm

    Provocation of Syria by Israel to start the 1967 6-Day War of territorial acquisition alleged by Mosha Dayan.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/11/world/general-s-words-shed-a-new-light-on-the-golan.html

    A person could literally fill a book with the violations of the inalienable Rights of Property, Liberty, Citizenship, and other civil Rights of the non-Jewish population of Palestine. Once again this does not excuse acts of terrorism by the Arabs against Israel and no attempt is being made to do that.

    It also doesn't address the fact that Israel is a rogue nuclear weapon state in the Middle East that threatens it neighbors which encourages the proliferation of nuclear weapons by those nations as a deterant against an Israeli attack.
     
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    If they had accepted Israel's right to exist in 1948 there never would have been a problem.
     
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