Leftist with guns

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Hate_bs, Jan 10, 2012.

  1. Hate_bs

    Hate_bs New Member

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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    I am a market socialist and own firearms. I even carry CCW.

    I do not understand the lefts ignorance/blatant stupidity regarding guns.
     
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    I wouldn't worry. I'm sure most of those far-left whackos couldn't hit the side of a barn, once they figured out how to disengage the safety.
     
  4. Think for myself

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    Which is odd, because I tend to use mine for target practice, home protection, and for shooting rather tasty animals.
     
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    there are many liberals here where I live and many are pro gun and they jnow how to shoot!!
     
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    True.

    Isn't it interesting that Obama and his jackass party were against the wars, against the Patriot Act, against the intrusions of TSA and homeland security, against the military, but when Obama got into office and found he controlled all that power, suddenly he liked the wars and the military and the Patriot Act.

    Typical lefty socialist. To paraphrase, when they don't have the bullets, they use the ballot to get the bullets, and then they don't give a dam about the ballot.

    Once socialists get control of the weapons, they seize control of everything.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Obama is not a socialist in case you didn't notice.
     
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    If not,He sure quacks like one.
     
  9. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Yet, socialists reject him as a being a socialist.

    He is not a socialist.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Again,he acts and looks like one,despite the protestations of 'socialists'....he may not be a good one...
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    CEO still make millions a year, people go without life saving medical care, work places are still dictatorships.

    He is not a socialist.
     
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    Socialist, Marxist, communist, the exact name doesn't matter. They are all from the same mold, with the same agenda, and all end up in the same cesspool taking everyone else with them.
     
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    CEO makes millions - good for them, they earned it.

    People go without life saving medical care - not the fault of the CEO, but I guess you blame the CEO for someones lack of medical care and would punish the blameless CEO.

    Work places are still dictatorships - the classic ignorant and jealous rant of socialists who have never signed the front of a paycheck, started a company, given up their pay to pay employees.

    Odd that you repeat Obama's main claims and then say he isnt a socialist.
     
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    Nope. He is neither of those either.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Off of the backs of their employees.

    If a low income person is unable to afford their own medical care, the money has to come from somewhere now doesn't it?

    My work place is a democracy, as they should be, the way I intend to keep it. However, I am very opposed to the workers having little or no say over anything. A totalitarian work place is hardly ideal.

    Obama makes no such claims.
     
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    Of course Obama does.

    Obama hates CEO's so much he gave speeches about capping executive pay for companies receiving bailout money and then expanded it to any company receiving federal contracts. He created his executive pay czar position and put Ken Feinberg in charge.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/22/us/politics/22regulate.html?pagewanted=all

    His little Democrat socialist minions jumped on board with congressional oversight hearings.

    http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3832&Itemid=49

    In his book, Obama describes his single year in life working in the private sector as being "behind enemy lines". Obama hates the private sector.


    Obamacare. Ever heard of it?

    How will it be paid for? Taxes on business and the "rich", and cost controls on physicians, hospitals, pharmaceuticals, and all other parts of the medical community.

    The flaw in all of that and in your claim is that even if you take every single penny earned by the top 10%, you can barely balance the current budget. There isn't enough money in the top 10% to pay for the govt. All you have to do is go to IRS.gov/stats and see there isn't enough money.

    Obama agrees. That is why he is so biased to give unions such power and packs the NLRB.


    And your description is not accurate of how most companies are run.

    Everyone is good at something, and they are hired to do that thing they are good at. Employees can speak up, particularly if they are expert at their job. Their opinions are heard and considered because they are experts in their job and only a fool would ignore their advice. Competent people are given the freedom to do a task as they see fit because, as I said, they are competent and expert.

    But that does not qualify them to run a company. Being good at running a CNC machine or welding or aerodynamics does not mean that person is capable of making corporate decisions. It does not mean that person can even bear the stress of decisions that involve many millions of dollars and thousands of jobs.

    Each person does his part, each is valued and paid accordingly.

    Thats how the real corporate world works. Obama and you know nothing of that world, but its convenient to misrepresent it as some sort of system that abuses people.

    Read the above. Google each topic for yourself, and include "Obama" in the google. Amazing that you don't follow what your comrades in DC are doing.
     
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    I've started shooting leftists in the pinky toe when I encounter them.
     
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    Those CEO's still make many times the earnings of each individual employee they employ.

    Obama is not a socialist.



    There are no written workers rights, nor do they have an equal voice in a company.

    Obama is not a socialist.
     
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    They should be paid much more than the average employee. The CEO is entrusted with setting the direction of the company, all employees and investors are affected by his decisions. The CEO has great responsibility, trust and power, and is paid accordingly.

    I can understand your confusion as you have no doubt fallen victim yet again to propaganda.

    Most claims of excessive CEO pay use tailored data. This report http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/management/story/CEO-pay-2010/45634384/1 claims median CEO pay is near $9 million, but when you look at the details they selected 158 of the top 500 CEO's for their study. Very convenient to meet their agenda.

    Or this by the AFL-CIO http://blog.aflcio.org/2011/04/19/2011-paywatch-average-ceo-salary-11-4-million/ which looks at 299 of the top 500 companies and then creates all kinds of tricky apples-to-oranges comparisons to play their class warfare game.

    What they don't say is that those companies are generally very successful - the CEO has done a good job.

    There are 7.6 million companies with employees in the USA. The average pay of all CEO's doesn't come close to $1 million. Most get paid little more than an average employee.

    Total BS on the first part. There are endless rules regarding employee rights and safety, discrimination, insurance, workers compensation, on and on. Employees have a myriad of avenues to bring formal complaints. Do your research.

    Employees should not have an equal voice in the company. Every person plays their part,but some parts have more responsibility than others, and some parts play a bigger role in success.

    I would never tell a welder how to weld, and I would definitely listen to him if he told me his job needs to be performed a certain way. He is the expert in welding.

    In the welding field, the welder is the dictator. What he says goes. His opinion outweighs all other non-welders.

    When it comes to setting the direction of the comapany, the CEO is the dictator. He is the expert in that field, and in most cases he started and built the company. What he says goes.

    If the welder doesn't like it, then he can always start his own company. People do it every day.
     
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    Lefty with firearms and my CCW license, also. Sort of tired of hearing gun rights framed in political sense all the time. I know a lot of us that support the 2nd but don't go along with all the Repub's other BS.
     
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    I did not know that leftist "lil" dick cheney was packing.
     
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    Let's not forget that the only state that has elected a socialist to federal government (statewide), and what is widely considered one of the most liberal states in the country has ZERO gun regulations.

    I'm a leftists and i want a gun simply because they are fun.
     
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    Blatantly untrue. Historically, different leftist factions do not get along with eachother.
     
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    Does he advocate abolishing private ownership of capital? If no, then he's not a socialist. Given his behavior he's not even a social democrat.
     
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    Obama is a poor excuse of a socialist.

    "Socialist" is just a cool word to throw around when you haven't a clue what it means.
     

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