What the Messiah is Supposed to Do.

Just....about....to.....reach..........oh, screw it. When you are right, you are right.

 

I can't speak for the rest of the world.

But here in the US, we best line up some powerful top notch lawyers to argue that it isn't a religion but a mobile political theocracy and therefore is against our constitution and must be banned. We must round up all US muslims in internment camps and give them an ultimatum: Reject the fundamentalism in your "religion" or be deported.

 

You'd have to round up and deport the Christian Zionists as well.. What a dumb idea.

 

Is it too late to dig FDR out of his grave?

 

So is jesus the man to unfold the absolute, to you?

Did he bring the 'last word'?

 

Lol......................

 

he did bring the last word to bani isra'il.

but the final message for all mankind (not to a specific
tribe or nation) has arrived with our prophet (saw).

• adam (pbuh).
• same message to various nations through various prophets.
• last message = qur'an.
• last messenger = muhammed (saw).
• apocalypse.
• worldly life ends.
• eternal life begins.

that's the chronology.

 

Until recently.. Christian theology was very clear that the "Apocalypse" was about the birth of a new age NOT the end of the world.......

 

Oh, like "the dawning of the age of Aquarius?"

this is the dawning of the age of aquarius,

harmony and understanding?

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/religion/231703-what-apocalyptic-literature.html

It was the end of an age.. the destruction of the Temple.. the end of animal sacrifice.. and the beginning of Rabbinical Judaism.

 

the last word is the name of 'god'

darwin?
newton?
einstein?
tesla?
osama bin laden?

It sure wasnt muhammad

never wrote a word (ever)

losts of messages from people all over the world. You are getting one NOW!

that's a bunch of bull. Quran is a religious belief system. Rituals are for morons!

he was dead before a word of quran was written. ie... the book did not even exist during his whole lifetime!

means 'unveiling'. Not quran, not religions, not a war.

Apocalypse, means 'unveiling'.

Perhaps the meaning of that word was just unveiled to you?

that's a bunch of BS. You may be dead, but the world will be here well beyond your time of breathing.

Muhammad is living NOW, in an eternity of mankinds actions, well beyond the grave.

Same with jesus, confucious, darwin, etc etc etc

Think of knowledge as a pyramid, each brick supports the next generation in line. That pinnacle is the last word (name of god)

so now read your signature as you definitely are VULGAR with your ignorance and pride!!!!!

 

The messiah is supposed to bring peace to Yerushelayum.

When will there be peace in Israel? When the Moschiach comes, that's when.

When will he come/come back?

G-d isn't talking.

 

yes you might interpret it as the birth of a new age: eternity...
after the end of this world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Islam#List_of_99_Names_of_God_as_found_in_the_Qur.27an

Allah is the name you are looking for.

 

The world isn't going to end... that teaching is heresy..

What already happened is that Jesus came, was crucified and resurrected.. and 40 years later the Temple was destroyed .. No more animal sacrifice for the amelioration of sin.

Think revolution NOT destruction of the earth.

 

I already know that 'nature' is all a it. (all mass, energy, time; existence itself)

But that aint its name.

The name defines.

Kind of like the listing of all of those descriptions you pointed out in the wiki-link of all of them 'faces' (ideologies) of 'all ah' it (existence itself). All of it is god as all of them names can be combined, under ONE name.

For example: some say jehovah, some say god, some say allah, some say brahma.... but there is a universal language

Math

and of math, a defining description removes the ambiguity and defines 'all ah' it, within or clearly 'the universe' itself (all ah it)

put it this way, nuclear energy is predicted and can be defined by E=mc2..... allah cant do that!

I did not say, Einsteins math was the 'last word' because that model is also incorrect

but with the use of 'the tree of knowledge' man can move mountains.

You cant do that with 'allah' as a name to god as you limit god with the simplicity of a religion.


God (nature) aint a diety to beg of.

Nature (god) is whom controls your everything but in and of good, 'gods' name can enable LIFE (mankind can create).

 

To the world, knowledge enables, WORLD PEACE!

but i am

and like you, we each are of HE (nature) and HE (existence itself) has revealed its "name"

So as you seek moschiah, would that idiot be the 'name' bearer?

Would the 'house of knowledge' (zion) finally have its foundation, that is absolute to 'god' (nature)?

Would the children of (nature/god itself) become aware of life ever-lasting and do what is real?

If you can answer each of those, then who must be walking?

 

Very interesting, but I am getting a headache.

 

now you think life will go on on this dimension and planet?
islam's perspective:

50:15
Did We fail in the first creation? But they are in confusion over a new creation.

21:104
The Day when We will fold the heaven like the folding of a [written] sheet
for the records. As We began the first creation, We will repeat it. [That is]
a promise binding upon Us. Indeed, We will do it.

28:88
And do not invoke with Allah another deity. There is no deity except Him.
Everything will be destroyed but He. His is the judgement, and to Him you
will be returned.

also read: http://quran.com/56​

reds above.

 

and truth is nearer than your jugular .16
one of us is learned (of the right: compassion) one is not .17
the 'name' is not spoken .18
and 'truth' is what is feared .19
the 'day' was promised and sounding .20
each can witness, truth .21

the second 'creation' (which i personal have asked you about)

ie.. truth WILL and IS unveiling

DO NOT create a diety as NATURE (allah) is where you were born of and will return

12:040 ............... names are many but only ONE is for 'all ah' (existence itself)

The name defines.

and that label you make, aint of equality to all that is

mankind created all words and all math

why would you lie (false witness) such?

another lie

Do you have a problem with standing up straight?

nature is 'the creator' itself

and mankind is of HIM (nature). In which all come from and will return

the parable means (as i have spoken), your 'name' cannot create a fly... but 'the name' is what 'all a it', can be....


but see .72................... the book, to the letter is known and the unbelievers of the'second creation' do deny. And of almost anger

but need i remind you of the penalty?​

 

nature is not Allah.
if that is your point.
nature/universe/math/science/humans parts of the system.

pantheism is quite shallow.
same goes for wahdeti wucud in sufism or new age...

 

how is that?

Everything you've ever needed, during your whole life is from 'god' (nature).

Unless you can show me something else.

and the UNIVERSAL system, is 'god' itself (nature), your everything.

I know it is tough to put your arms around at first, but if you begin to be completely honest with yourself, you will realize, YOU NEED HIM (nature) to even survive and then one day you may wake up and be thankful for every breath.

keep it in mind the next time you bend down to kiss the dirt

No images dude; it's against the law!

but you and i are discussing the 'second creation' (the unveiling) that muhammad (quran) was talking about.

Dont side step. Walk the straight and narrow and be honest!

 

i am not capable of giving you guidance.
that is your personal affair with Allah almighty.
you will answer to him when this life is over.

but at the main time your job is to be grateful for
everything that has been given to you.

and truly seek for the answer.

then you are too a part of god,
since you are a part of the nature?

no.

separate are the system and the system maker / holder.
many philosophers went after this notion of "we are the world,
we are the children"... there is even a weak segment in islam that
believed in the oneness of all creatures with the almighty. this is
again not separating the creator with the creation, which is islam's
main emphasis and also one of the things that is unique about islam.

every single religion mingles the creator with the creation.
the only exception is islam. i said this many times in these forums.

islam clearly puts forward a unique, unimaginable creator.
that controls everything, at all times. so powerful and high, he is
not his creation. doesn't need to be.

example:
what you call the law of gravity (the source is unknown to you,
it's just happen to be there), to me it is Allah sustaining the system
he created. he only knows how. Allah-u a'lem. his knowledge
encompasses everything.

do you see the nuance?
there is this thin line that changes everything.

to you what you see is what you get.
this creation is filled with 1%s to 99%s, and they are
supposed to be the creator.

to me Allah is 100% and beyond.

because the system as a whole and in detail (macro/micro)
is so amazing and unerring, does not make it Allah.

the book is not the writer.
it simply tells a lot about the writer.

replace nature with Allah.
you are right on spot.

correction; the muslim prayer is
standing in front of Allah
thanking, praising and worshiping him.
reciting him the words he showed.
communicating by the means he wants us to.
just like every prophet did.
this is an open channel... not limited to anyone.

this can only be summarized as kissing the dirt by a brusque.
don't be a brusque.

a general advice;
unless you understand it, respect it.
to understand, research and experience it.
endure to see results.

otherwise don't talk about places you haven't been.

then why are you keep bringing up the pantheism?
that old ancient greek deviation?

you are a smart fella, look more into this.
you insist on standing in the middle of a vicious cycle.

no problem can be solved from the same level
of consciousness that created it.

~ albert einstein​

 

i am responsible, now

best comments, i think you've ever wrote (even if you cant spell)

i knew you had it in you

absolutely

to deny that, would be a lie

please name them; i would like each to honor the 'best in class'

ie.... idiots 'left the garden'

wrong guy; the name enables even you to comprehend what gravity is.

ie... the name (math defining existence) is not just sought in the religious sects, but in EVERY discipline of knowledge

Gravity is entanglement (a property of light (em))

i know, i see it, i comprehend; you prefer lying to yourself versus being honest with us all, (allah)

mankind

ie.... you dont comprehend nature, and discount HIM

have you been elsewhere?

 

wow what a pointless answer.

be well.

 

i complimented you; I guess that is pretty pointless!