If The Catholic Church Supports The Big Bang Theory...

God could have "sneezed" and created the universe.. It's like a child playing with boogers...

 

This thread seems to have gone the opposite to what I intended...

 

dam cant find the scene form young Franken stein where he goes o god in haven what have i done

 

Science is not falsifiable. Natural science looks for truth all around us in the reality - foe example via experiments. A typical scientist for example was Konrad Lorenz (biology) who said "Every day as an early morning exercise I falsify the hypothese I love most". Scientists are doing so because they like to know something about this world here - and not because they like to become nihilists. Your attitude "science is the better religion" or "science gives the right rules to religion" is absurde. Someone is a baker and a Christian - and someone else is a phycicist and a Christian. That's absolutelly normal and no problem.

http://youtu.be/NIF-BfCOJJg

 

I agree. It got off topic and bogged down with semantics. I'm gonna put on my old believer hat (which I've not worn in quite a while), and try to answer your question for what it is asking.

The problem with accepting the Big Bang is that it is vastly different than what is described in the Bible. So accepting the Big Bang is accepting that the Bible has flaws, which is unacceptable because God is perfect. Therefore the Big Bang cannot be accepted as a valid theory.

And when you say - "the theory of creation remains because the Big Bang couldn't have happened without Gods knowledge, as this would prove that God is not all knowing."...

The only way we know God's knowledge is through the Bible, which doesn't really describe a Big Bang theory. Therefore the Big Bang theory is not true and must be discarded. So I guess in a round-about way it does strengthen the case for Creationism.

(believer hat off)

But it took a lot of assumptions to arrive at that conclusion. Like for starters; to assume there's a God, then the conclusion to Creationism is already made by default.

 

Not really. We are the [result of the] big-bang. We are always in the middle of this physical process and we are also always in the love of god - hopefully.

http://youtu.be/zNBxJMg28OQ

 

And how know the people in the bible something about god? (I don't expect any answer now. Take your time as long as you like to think about this problem.)

http://youtu.be/qYr9kIyambE

 

God reveals himself through the Spirit and through his wisdom. The various authors of the Bible give us guidance on how to recognize when God's power is at work. For example, there are numerous prophesies stated in the Old Testament that are clearly fulfilled in the New Testament which is evidence of the divine nature of the prophets in the Bible.

 

Hmm ... fast answer ... no names ... Do you feel something if you say so? ...

http://youtu.be/gx2Mc5K9VO0

 

Dude...is that Kathy Griffin in that vid?


No, I don't have names but you can google it. Here's someone's list of fulfilled Bible prophesy. http://www.bible.ca/b-prophecy-60.htm

The 'feeling' of religious experience is what I find most compelling. Why is that experience describe very similarly by everyone having it. Or even similarly across the lines of denominations, other religions, or even isolated 'spiritual events'.

You can't refute a personal experience, because you have no direct knowledge of it. Only the person having it does. They can describe what is happening and you can match it to your world view, beliefs, or what your emotional state is but it's not a system that is conducive to reproducible results. ie - someone can have the exact same experience and believe something totally different about what happened in that experience. That's sort of the point of having a Spiritual guide (Messiah, Prophet, Clergy), to help you understand the feelings you're having from your life experiences.

That's not a very 'spiritual' answer but I'm not a believer so...

 

I wouldn't know about that, but I think it is going in the only direction it can when trying to mix a scientific concept with theological ponderings. Such attempts tend to disclose the numerous misconceptions accumulated from dogmatic presuppositions clashing with the less dogmatic nature of reality.

 

The normal way of the prophets is very simple. A prophet tells the people what they should not do any longer because god's becoming angry otherwise. The people understand the problem and they stop their wrong behavior. Afterwards the prophet may become angry because the world goes on and he has to live and to die like everyone else.

http://youtu.be/oyQdCJwJZck

 

The perfect is not perfect - the bible would be wrong if it would be absolutelly right. The bible is not god - it's a book written from human beings for human beings - also about experiences with god.

http://youtu.be/CuEVL-9AUvY

 

Whitney! lol, you're a different kinda Dude.

It's an effective strategy for the prophet's to employ. As a former believer, the very last thing to overcome was the fear of God punishing me for having doubts even though my God would never do such a thing. It's rather perverse when I think about it now.

 

Remember Jesus Christ, raised from the dead, descended from David. This is my gospel, for which I am suffering even to the point of being chained like a criminal. But God's word is not chained. Therefore I endure everything for the sake of the elect, that they too may obtain the salvation that is in Christ Jesus, with eternal glory. Here is a trustworthy saying: If we died with him, we will also live with him; if we endure, we will also reign with him. If we disown him, he will also disown us; if we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot disown himself. http://youtu.be/ARNiv8MR4JE

"Do not live in fear" and "live in love" are two of the important messages of the christian religion. So you misunderstood something.

http://youtu.be/DRR0NwQ8dlo