Speech about FAITH, MORALITY and ETHICS angers Gays

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  1. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

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    they are angry because someone from the Boy Scouts is speaking about faith, morality and ethics..........the militant arm of the gay movement keeps shooting themselves in the foot

    There's a drama unfolding in Kansas City, Missouri, over the selection of Robert Mazzuca, Chief Scout Executive of the Boy Scouts of America (i.e. the executive director), to speak at the annual Mayor's Prayer Breakfast event this Thursday. Gay and lesbian groups in the region are frustrated that the leader will be giving the keynote, considering what they see as discriminatory policies on the part of the Boy Scouts.

    Mazzuca, who plans to talk about faith, morality and ethics, will be speaking to approximately 800 people at the Kansas City Convention Center. During his talk, he will also celebrate the contributions of Mayor H. Row Bartle, who served as the city's top public official from 1956 until 1963. Bartle was a major supporter of Scouting during his lifetime.

    While Mazzuca is clearly qualified from a faith perspective, others -- particularly those in the gay community who wish to see someone who embraces a more inclusive worldview -- disagree.

    "[The Boy Scouts] don't appreciate all members of society," explains Claire Cook, a leader at Promo, a group that works on LGBT issues. "They don't allow all children and all families to take part in the wonderful things they allow and provide for people." sec- translated, they want boys in the boy scouts............go figure


    While Cook and her group don't plan to disrupt the event, they are urging organizers to issue statements against the Boy Scouts' purported discriminatory practices and policies. She is hoping that such a statement is made at the event or soon after.

    In the meantime, Promo has created an online petition that urges supporters "to speak out in support of gay youth being included in the Boy Scouts at all levels." Here is some text from the petition, as it currently stands:

    The Boy Scouts of America (BSA) have a long history of discrimination against both gay youth and LGBT families. Most notably, BSA adopted a discriminatory Youth Leadership policy in 2004 stating "Boy Scouts of America believes that homosexual conduct is inconsistent with the obligations in the Scout Oath and Scout Law to be morally straight and clean in thought, word, and deed." Under this policy gay Boy Scout leaders are stripped of their positions in the organization and often denied access to the organization all together. [...]

    To have elected officials such as Mayor Sly James, who champions diversity, community, leadership, and social justice hold someone such as Robert Mazzuca up as a leader is not consistent with the values of Kansas City and the greater metro area.

    But Mark Zimmerman, the head of the Prayer Breakfast event, has responded by explaining that Mazzuca isn't coming to lecture the audience about the Boy Scouts' teachings.

    "Robert isn't here to talk of that issue," Zimmerman proclaimed. "He's here to talk of things that unite us."


    http://news.yahoo.com/gay-rights-groups-angry-over-boy-scouts-leader-172644523.html
     
  2. Blackrook

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    The gays want to get in the Boy Scouts so they can recruit young boys into the homosexual lifestyle. The Boy Scouts are right to keep them out. They keep the atheists out for the same reason.
     
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    Well there's always the Catholic Church for little boys to repent their sins ... :p
     
  4. sec

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    I have no clue what the gay movement hopes to accomplish by causing a ruckus about a piece of Americana like the BSA
     
  5. RichT2705

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    Tough (*)(*)(*)(*). Watching their validation agenda unfold daily, and be crammed down our throats angers many of the rest of us.

    They need to get over it like we have to.
     
  6. sec

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    I watch in disbelief as the gay movement says they want to be accepted but do stupid things like getting upset over the Boy Scouts

    where is their tolerance?
     
  7. HonestJoe

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    Do you have any evidence for this libel or are you going to continue to spout your bigoted hatred without any rational logic?
     
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    Tolerance is a one way street to them.
     
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    Why can't these self-righteous half-wits just use their brains? If you don't like the policies of a PRIVATE ORGANIZATION, why don't you just start your own organization with different policies? Go start the LGBT Scouts. Or the People Scouts. That's what a free country allows you to do. What on Earth gives you the idea that everyone else should bow down to your personal beliefs just because your feelings are hurt?

    This is why people don't like you, gay folks. Because you're pushy, hostile, and intolerant of anyone else's opinions. Quite ironic considering what you accuse everyone else of being. You guys are overstepping your boundaries, and you need to knock it off. You're being horribly disrespectful. We don't go into your organizations and demand that you do things our way. We respect your right to exist and do what you want even if we don't agree with you. All we're asking for is the same thing in return.
     
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    Most gays don't get caught up in this false moral outrage. These are the loud by minority amount of gays that are "activists". I find it sad for the rest of the gays that often get defined by these whack jobs.
     
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    Totally uncalled for and offensive, but considering the source I expect no less.
     
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    Absolute trash! Gay people are exactly like straight people in every single way other than the single obvious difference. Gay people are no more likely to pushy, hostile or intolerant as anyone else and are equally likely to be victims of those things.

    Your biased statement is a classic example of the issue here. Homosexuals are currently being treated as second class citizens by the likes of the BSA, socially or morally sub-standard (or maybe sub-human?). Solely on the grounds of their sexuality, entirely regardless of any individual qualities, the BSA considered them unsuitable to play any part in their organisation.

    You're quite right that the BSA, as a private organisation, has every right to hold that position but other people also have the right to speak out against it and try to convince them to choose to change it. Incidentally, this example must be one of the most peaceful and non-disruptive methods of protest I've seen.

    Except marry, join the armed forces, foster or adopt children or, of course, join the scouts.
     
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    He's a known and acknowledged troll. Don't pay him any attention... it's all he want because his mommy and daddy likely neglected him... typical beta male.

    He even had the well know troll avatar for quite some time.

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    Google: Troll and you'll see it too. His whole game is trolling.

    I was surprised the mods didn't just dump him.
     
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    homosexualism is considered immoral by many that is why speeches about faith morality and ethics anger the homosexuals
     
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    I can't enter a Mr Gay Pride contest and understand why. If those who have gay sex want their own gay boy scouts then by golly, start one
     
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    I agree but I can't let his brash and uncouth comments go unanswered. I call him at it every time and every time he changes the subject to suit his needs.
     
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    ...obviously as it points directly at their immoral activities. What most people can't figure out is why they want to disrupt an organization that is founded on Christian principals. It's like they are begging for a fight.
     
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    so, only the perspective of homosexuals must be correct? Is there no room for other perspectives?
     
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    I suspect you could if you wanted to. In general, participation in Pride events aren't restricted on the basis of sexuality (that would contradict the basic principal).

    It isn't about having sex, it's about being gay. A celibate homosexual would be automatically kicked out of the BSA while a heterosexual who sleeps around wouldn't necessarily. Outside the question of leaders, we're largely talking about children developing and understanding their sexuality (regardless of direction) rather than actively practicing anything.

    This is why the is a general social problem here that not only involves the rights or the organisation but also it's responsibilities. The last thing a young person struggling to understand their developing sexuality needs is to be unceremoniously kicked out of a social organisation, effectively told that they're not worthy to associate with "normal" people.
     
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    ouch... to both points
     
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    I agree.

    It's like when Martin Luther King Jr. dared to complain cause black people couldn't use the same bathrooms as us white people. How dare he impose his n**** agenda on the world.

    Did I sound conservative? I really tried.

    Look bigots, let me break it down. Your view on the subject is this.

    All men and women are born straight, this is the natural order of things. Thus to engage in homosexual activities is out of bizarre, twisted, and irrational fetishes. They are depraved, perverse, and disgusting.

    Now read this.

    1. Why would two homosexuals desire to spend their lives with eachother. Why build a home, family, property out of a sick twisted fetish? What would drive a depraved freak who only cares about bizarre sex. . . wish to only have sex with 1 person, whom they feel security, warmth, and love when in their presence. Why spend 50 years with your same sex partner if you only are engaging in homosexuality for the sick thrills?

    2. No amount of education can save someone from homosexuality. You can teach your children all about the evils of being gay. But, if your son feels no emotional surge of romanticism, attraction, and love when he meets and interacts with women. That is his nature. When he talks with other men, his brain has a chemical reaction which causes him to be attracted to men. This is in no way a fault of his own.

    Straight men do not engage in gay acts, because we are straight. A man born whos own chemical composition forces feelings of romance and sex and. . . yes LOVE onto another man is in no way indicitive of a perverse fetish.
     

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