Is it just me or does it seem like the religious right is taking over America?

What is progressive totalitarianism?

I would say that I disagree with any type of totalitarianism. But I keep getting accused of supporting it for some reason.

 

When you are standing on a boat that is drifting out to sea, the land will appear to be moving away from you. But it's merely an illusion.

What do I mean?

I mean you should take a good, honest look at the left wing if you truly want some perspective. It's not the right that is moving. It's the left. Further and further out toward the liberal fringe. The only change in the right at all is that they are finally finding the guts to stand up for what they believe in. Their beliefs haven't changed at all. They had simply allowed themselves to be guilted into silence since the end of the Reagan era. And any increase in visibility of conservatism/social conservatism/Christianity/etc. is nothing more than those people speaking up instead of continuing to sit there silently while the left wing steamrolls the country.

So to answer your question, it's just you.

 

Controlling every aspect of the lives' of the population, controlling the food supply, the energy supply, the education, the transportation...allegedly for the good of the earth or society. Collectivist loserism.

 

The Religous Left is today's Democrat Party....its 100% Faith...because it has a 100% Failure rate. Its obedience to a higher power....that being an all controlling all powerful Nanny Statist Government. Whatever the Democrat Messiahs or Liberal Prophets decry.......millions of Obamabots believe without question......and will begin reciting the verse without thought or brain activity.

Its about Intention......never Results.......its HOPE over ACTION......

....Jesus turned water into wine.....Obama turned Unemployment Checks into Jobs.....Jesus walked on water.......Obama has the power to lower the seas........ Which one isnt a miracle or an act of God?
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yes well .... liberalism/socialism and communism are not the same.

liberalism is definitely NOT about controlling the lives of others (even the word "liberalism" should give you a clue about that)

and if you understood what communism and socialism are, you would realise that that is not what they are about either.

like Kaliyo, I would also be interested to know more about the religious left, but I suspect that you are using this phrase as a knee jerk reaction to the term religious right, and it has no meaning to anyone else.

educate yourself a bit. it might help you to construct a reasonable argument.

as an outsider I just see the ramblings of people like you, as reinforcing the perception many of us already have about the irrational fear of everything within the american right.

 

no.

its the right that is moving ... or at least americans are moving to the right.

http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2012/02/gallup-poll-shows-america-moving-to.html

but at the end of the day, Obama's policies ARE working, and if the economy continues to improve, the republicans will have an uphill battle ... because as I have said before, the hip pocket nerve is the most sensitive for voters.

 

No offense, but this post does a great job of illustrating why most non-Americans have a poor understanding of American politics. Your idea of the American religious right is about as accurate as Joel Schumacher's idea of Batman. And if you don't get that reference, then you're only further proving my point.

 

They've always been in control where I live. They are gaining power on the national stage though. Every word I have said has been turned into something about leftists which I have said I have nothing to do with. I just don;t want someone who believes in things like burning Harry Potter books and freaking out over evolution and the Big Bang to have large amounts of political power over me. Whose to say they won't start trying to legislate based on their bible? the bible has things in it like a prohibition against eating shrimp

Who is doing this? I don't agree with it. Enlighten me so I can oppose these fascists.

 

Her perception of "liberalism" in America is even further off. Ron Paul represents liberty in America. Democrats are totalitarian progressives who are religious control freaks, as I've already mentioned.

 

Statism is a big tent. No doubt you want to state all the intricate differences while ignoring the glaring commonality and ending they all share........

........an all controlling all powerful centralized Statist Government with a monopoly on brute force.

By definition...NO........by modern day reality....its entirely what its about.

Irrational fear?...........

$16,000,000,000,000.00......whats the price tag on your fear?
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a moderate/independent is a lib in denial.

Are you telling me you don't vote?

 

no offense take, but I would like to see some evidence that the religious right is NOT influencing decisions that have an impact on other people's lives, such as the example I provided, and thus imposing their religious values on others.

 

Nothing about abortion or gay marriage (which should not even be federal issues) have changed from the hated GWBush to the beloved anti-liberal Obama. So, you tell us how else Bush's religion, which is allegedly the same as Obama's, has changed since new Christian, Obama, has taken office.

Thanks

 

Nope. I have no one to vote for. Obama sucks. And all the Republicans are fanatics.

 

irrational fear obviously is costing you a lot.

personally, my fear doesn't cost a lot. I guess insurance might be a cost of fear, but I have reduced premiums by accepting that I will pay higher excesses, because I tend to think risks are low. ... I don't spend any extra on personal security, and there has been no fallout from not spending in this area.

I guess I have concerns about climate change. this influenced me to get solar power a few years ago, but that has more than paid for itelf now so it was an investment, so that "fear" led to a net gain.

but I am not sure what I am comparing to - can you be more specific?

 

JFK would not recognize his own party today it's so radically different from the Democratic party that elected him president. In fact, the pace at which the left wing is moving outward toward the fringe is quite astounding. A mere 5 years ago, the word socialist was still a dirty word. Today, MSNBC reporters openly call themselves socialist on the air.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxKd5lpZwLY"]MSNBC Anchor O'Donnell: "I Am A Socialist. I Live To The Extreme Left Of You Mere Liberals!" - YouTube[/ame]

 

If you want my personal opinion, Obama and Bush both come acoss as pretty religious.

we have an atheist prime minister (who is opposed to gay marriage). I wonder if the US will ever have an atheist president.

I am not arguing about whether these things should be state or federal issues, but it seems that in the US, republican legislators seem think its OK to introduce legislation that is designed to impact on private personal issues.

personally I think being anti gay marriage (whether a leader is religious or atheist) is being pretty out of touch. if gays want to marry there is no earthly reason why they should not be able to, especially as this has significant implications for them, and doesn't affect anyone else.

 

Fair enough, and now I remember why I like you, cassandra.

Honestly, I question why government is involved in marriage at all, but if they're going to be, I don't care what appendage the loved ones have.

 

the republican party of today is much further to the right than Reagan was. they have moved much further to the right than the dems have moved to the left.

 

I think that both parties have moved. The country is very polarized for some reason. This has happened in the last decade and I am unsure why. Polarization doesn't help our country at all.

I mostly talk about the religious right because I live in an area where that is all there is.

 

Indeed.....at the city level, the county level, the state level, and especially the federal level.......The Religous Left. Controlling your education, your retirement, your food, your health care, your property, and every aspect of your life and your future in between.......since you were born......till your death.....and even post mortem.......

Which is why you mistake a large plantation for freedom......and manage to worry yourself over what "The Religous Right Boogeyman" might do......while completely ignoring what the State is actually doing.

 

thanks for your kind words.

goverment needs to legislate, and then they can step out of it.

legally, the institution of marriage confers certain benefits. a couple in a long term relationship who are gay, are denied those benefits. one example that I have personally come across was a life partner of thirty years having less rights than an estranged family in the case of a terminal illness (and the family being able to exclude the life partner from the patient's room as she was dying).

this is just plain wrong, and any decent person can see this.

legislation can guarantee the life partner's rights and prevent things like this from happening.

 

Liberty is on the left and conservatism is on the right. Well, you are correct, the parties have moved to the right, but I still bet you don't understand the true historical context of the left.

Left is opposing oppressive gov't-elite collusion, feudalism, which is exactly what we have today. The leftists in America think they can solve this by handing more power to an absolutely corrupt gov't. They've already failed, and will continue to do so.

Liberty = decentralizing this global-(*)(*)(*)(*)fest.

 

this is very true - and there have been numerous studyies which look at the increased polarisation of US politics.

there are a number of factors which are influencing this, and I believe it will create future problems unless people start to remember that they are Americans first, and that they need to focus on working together.

On the outside, we see religion playing an increasing role in US politics. and that mystifies a lot of us. it just isn't such a big deal in most western countries.

we have long known that the US is more religious than most of us, but religion seems to be having a stronger influence in a number of areas.

 

I don't know that much about the american left, that is true - but you have to remember that to me, NC, the dems are still to the right and I live in a nanny state!