Is it just me or does it seem like the religious right is taking over America?

Hi there, this is my first post. I decided to come to a political forum to maybe get some feedback from some people and hopefully not trolling.

Anyways, I feel like the religious right is starting to take over the government. At the very least they have taken over the Republican party which might as well be called the Christian Fundamentalist Party at this point. I actually like some of the classic Republican ideals myself, but I don't see these being practiced by the majority of the Republicans. All I ever see them talk about is moral issues like gays, birth control, and passing legislation based on their religious beliefs. Look at the candidates that we've had so far: Perry, Bachman, Santorum, etc. Who could vote to have their rights taken away?

I have nothing against religion. I don't personally believe in any religion, but I am not some rabid anti-theist. However, I do believe that I have the right to live my life without people forcing their religious beliefs on me.Maybe its just because I am located in Tennessee,( a state where the notorious "Don't Say Gay" bill was passed) that I feel this way, given the power of religion here.

Things like the bill in Arizona that gives employers the right to fire a woman if she uses birth control are things that scare me. This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that would be passed in Tennessee. I really don't see how someone can do that. Doesn't that violate HIPAA laws? Can a Jehovah's Witness tell someone they can't have a blood transfusion? After all, their religion tells them that's wrong.

They think that their religion should control everyone's lives. Schools aren't supposed to teach basic biology or sex education because it might offend them. Why can't they just let their kid stay home on that day? Do my kids and everyone else's kids have to get the education they think is correct?

Not only do they obsess over violating the private lives of others, they also don;t make any sense with their reasoning on things :

I realize that they loathe abortion. That's fine. But they also hate contraception which PREVENTS abortion since no ovulation happens in the first place. They don't want abortion or contraception, but they don't want to support "welfare babies" with their taxes either, which would be the result of making contraception harder to get. Also they don't want sex education which could prevent pregnancy as well.

Another thing I don't get: if they want religious laws passed, then what religion gets the pass those laws? Even in Christianity there are many denominations. Catholics and Protestants obviously don't believe in the same thing. Why would a Catholic get to pass a law against birth control, when many Protestants don't have any problem with it?

I'd like feed back from different people. Also, just for the record I think ALL politicians are sleazy liars, not just Republicans.

 

Most don't want religious laws back. I think they just want to bring back a little sanity and common decency back which we seemed to have lost.

How about the old habit of getting married before having children? How about sending your kids to the movies without the fear of hearing a cuss word every two minutes. How about going through the day without having to get high on something.

If our forefathers could see what we have done to freedom of speech, they would be rolling over in their grave. Rap music about killing cops or raping your own mother? Come on people. Can't we put out a movie without every other word a cuss word? How about showing a little respect to others? What happened to our values that we had?

I have lived a long time and saw a lot of changes along the way. But we have lost any kind of values that we once had. The only positive I can see is that we have better race relations than we use to, but even that has a long way to go yet.

We have the attitude if we want to do it, go ahead. Nothing is off limits.

 

Can you explain what you mean by "common decency"?

 

Common decency compared to what time in our history?

I love these relative morals discussions because people seem to think that "we" were MUCH better people at <insert time in history here>.

 

It's just you.


All the things you mentioned are reactions to agendas being pushed by the left. Don't get it twisted.

 

I think that issues of social behavioral control (issues that both "sides" of the ultimately Progressive amerikan establishment rant and rave likes hypocrites on) can be blamed on those in power, having in tow, a Utopian agenda. Extreme Leftism, if you will.

 

How is the Right Wing "Extreme Leftism"? I don't want people to control my behavior if I am not hurting anyone.

 

Nobody is trying to control your behavior. It sounds like you're just regurgitating what you heard on MSNBC.

 

These things come in cycles. The right-wing has been particularly fervent about pushing the values on everybody else through legislation for the past decade or so. When the pushback comes, and I'm thinking it will come in the next few years, it is going to be harsh.

 

I'm saying that what appears to be right wing morality code, is nothing more than one of the dummy "choices" given to us by an ultimately Utopian-ist Progressive Govt. Who benefits when it boils down to issues like Population Control?

 

I don't watch MSNBC. I hate political talking heads. I am basing my opinion on my own experiences, as well as lots of research I've done that doesn't involve TV news. Also I was raised in a nutjob fundamentalist church that believed things like cartoons and Halloween were Satanic. These people frighten me. Who says I have to follow them?

 

I dont watch any of those channels. You shouldn't either. But it's your "choice"

 

I'm assuming you're an adult now so you can do whatever you want. Nobody is forcing you to follow any given church and certainly nobody is trying to ban halloween and cartoons. Get a hold of yourself.

 

I thought religious conservatives wanted to have as many children as possible? I grew up around these people. They actually believe stuff like this. Its not a front.

Maybe the politicians are lying about what they believe in order to appeal to the religious demographic, but they still intend to pass laws that destroy people's freedoms.

 

Not only do I not watch the poison being fed through the airwaves I don't even own a television anymore. Best decision of my life.

 

I'm asking whether these people should be able to force their religion on the public. Thats the point of my question. You can't deny there is an overwhelming push for that.

 

I deny it. The Republican Party is emphasizing the constitution. This pushes for religious freedoms as well as secular ones. Maybe hearing the word religion a lot is repelling you. Try to keep everything in context.

 

That's hardcore. I think the OP may not realize the fact that Utopia is under construction, and soon everything will change, drastically.

A smokescreen of "choice", red vs blue, mystifying, confusing, just enough to distract you...

 

I think even the illusion of choice is evaporating, at least from where I'm standing. We're all slaves at this point. The democratic party is a lost cause as far as freedom goes. The last shred of hope is to cleanse the republican party and replace it with constitutionalists...

 

The way I see it is if someone has the right to control my life based on their religious beliefs then they are taking away my personal rights.

The birth control debate is a good example. If an employer is a business that isnt doing business directly related to religion, then how do they have the right to say what I do in my personal life? Not only that but there is this huge implication that any woman who uses birth control must be some evil slut, when there are a myriad of medical uses for it. Not only that but married women also usually use birth control. Its not their business to invade people's rights.

This kind of thing is a slippery slope also. If you allow one religion to do this kind of thing, then you have to allow every other religion to do it as well. Do you want a Jehovah's witness employer to fire you for having a blood transfusion?

 

I think both parties are full of sleazy liars bought out by corporations. I don't like either one of them. Democrats are liars and hypocrits, Republicans are usually fanatics.

 

every time i get an opportunity to scribble in a freshly poured concrete sidewalk, I write YOU ARE A SLAVE.

 

LOL, pretty much.

Going through the divorce process really emphasizes that point to me. I am owned by the state.

 

So you are saying that there is some kind of vast conspiracy and both the left and right are in league with each other?

They probably are. But that isn't the topic.

 

From birth to death we are owned by the state. I have known this a long time. I'd prefer though to not be owned by a theocratic state.