Zimmerman vs Trayvon: What a mess-

why was the boy shot?

there seems to be one source that is blaming the boy for his own death.

I am also wondering what the big tough boys on this forum would do if they were being stalked, but didn't have a gun.

would they confront their stalker?

would that give the stalker the right to kill them?

 

The mainstream media in this country is a joke. It's so absurdly detached from reality, it's scary. They don't even make any effort at all to get the facts right anymore. It's almost as if they just collect the basic details of an incident and then write whatever story they want. What actually happened is of no interest to them. Someone needs to make these people understand that if they want to write stories, they need to go into the movie business. But if they want to be journalists, they need to report stories as they actually happened. There is no fantasy in journalism.

 

ummm . . . getting the facts right.

 

no, I dont think there are many racists who seek out minorities to kill

 

yes but the rules are different they have a responsibility to retreat even if they are carrying a gun

Stand your ground means you do not have to retreat and that is a republican law.

banning guns is the solution here.

 

So if zimmerman didn't set out to shoot this guy, why did he end up shooting him?

 

Opinion statement. No facts here.

 

ive been trying to get that out of them....

and based on FL law, the person being stalked could turn around and shoot the guy if they felt threatened....

but they are saying if Trayvon touched him....he deserved to be shot!

 

I can guess.

They replayed the video from the day after on the local news after Fringe tonight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zEDBqvEauYU

Have you seen it on any of your media?

 

For somebody who doesn't want to see gun deaths, you're advocating a solution that would result in hundreds of thousands of them.

 

Because he set out to (*)(*)(*)(*) with him and like most (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) like him when the kid turned the tables on him he turned to his gun.

 

At the time they had his word, ergo they didn't rush to arrest him. Let's say this was a black man who was in his position and he shot a white boy. Same scenario. Black man tells police that the white boy was trespassing and ran when he told him to stop. He followed him and altercation ensued. White boy is shot. Police arrest black man on spot for homicide or manslaughter.

People would also cry foul.

We have a case with conflicting testimonies about the altercation, no eyewitnesses to the shooting, only ear-witnesses to an event and a clear case of trespassing in an neighborhood with crime.

Zimmerman is in no danger of being a flight risk. The cops had to investigate--we still don't know whether or not there was an open file on the incident.

I do not think that Zimmerman did the right thing. I personally feel it is homicide, but what I feel is not necessarily correct. He and everyone else is owed a presumption of innocence. You don't--or shouldn't just throw people in jail because it creates momentum.

 

id guess a combination of distrust of blacks, amped up for action, feeling like superman with a gun, cop-envy, ....

 

And the police told him not to follow the boy.

The boy was innocent of any wrong doing. Since he was visiting his father he had a right to be there. He also had a right to go to a store and pay for merchandise. He also had a right to go back to his father without being followed by an adult.

He was a good student with good grades and had no history of causing trouble and the OP is ridiculous.

I hope every day that someone finds Zimmerman and gives him the justice he deserves and then claims self defense.

Bee

 

What do you mean by (*)(*)(*)(*) with him?

 

when someone is dead, a thorough investigation should occur...and one did not.

therse no justification tht goes otherwise...

if you shoot a guy raping your wife in your own home i expect the same thing

 

That does it!

We have an eyewitness.

George Zimmerman fired his weapon in self defense.

Case closed. Problem solved.

 

The story isn't so much Zimmerman v Trayvon. Theres arguments that lead to fights and killings everyday, they are all tragic but not something that will grasp national attention. The fact that there (didn't seem) to be an investigation is the part that has me scratching my head and part thats the bigger issue.

What ticks me (and probably a lot of typical white people) off is that we all seem to be put on the side of Zimmerman because the sherrif if white and Zimmerman is not black. Stuff like that in the media and through a lot of race pimps does nothing but throw gasoline on the fire and make this less about a kid being killed and more about "see look white people kill black people all the time and nothing is ever done about it".

 

That doesn't make sense. According to reports this guy has helped put other criminals away without shooting them.

This wasn't his first rodeo.

 

Are there facts that you are privy to that I am not?? Every single day we get people off with more evidence than this. I know how hard it is to convict and it SHOULD be that hard to prevent innocent people from going to jail.

This pendulum swings both ways--more often than not AGAINST minorities. I'd be a bleepin hypocrite to change my position today because this dude is a white-ish Jewish- Hispanic.

 

Sssshhhh! Don't say anything about dogs! Hell, the libs will want to tax or outlaw them. They'll have to pry my golden doodles out of my cold, dead, fur-laden fingers. The left's rampage is RUFF on us all.

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Is it racist to be distrustful of blacks?

 

We already know that Zimmerman started the confrontation from the 911 call. Also that video shows they were behind homes --- no where near Zimmerman's vehicle as he claimed.

The witness testimony proves nothing. We already know there was fight. The question is who started the fight? Who pursued after they were told by a 911 operator not to do so.

 

thats terrible.....2 lives lost instead of 1 isnt any sort of a solution

didnt we already see what vigilante justice leads to???

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zEDBqvEauYU

Typical thugs. This is why all upstanding citizens need to remain armed. You never know when the sub-humans will revert to their jungle nature on civilized human beings.