He is the one that made the poor decision. He is the one who used lethal force. There are consequences, or at least there SHOULD be consequences. The idea of vigilantes running around provoking confrontations just so they can shoot someone is just bad in general. SYG laws are often poorly worded and are pretty much a license to kill. I think that the Sanford PD will also receive a fair amount of heat. It sounds like that department needs to be cleaned out and scrubbed down.
Don't count on it being a weak case. In Florida 411 people were convicted in 2010-2011 for second degree murder.
So is this how Zimmerman refers to all non criminals? http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/16/2697604/trayvon-martins-parents-criss.html
Vigilante is a bit of a streatch isent it? The guy was a neighborhood watchman and was armed. That was his job! Why would the Sanford PD recieve any heat over this?? Maybe you could wipe away the biasness and hatred for cops and authority and look at this case like a rational person for a second. You may realize this is an obvious attack on authority and cops in general. This case is not about Zimmerman at all. It is about authority, use of force and cops.
I just think it's funny and sad how the race baiters have put this kids family in fancy suits in front of a camera and has given them hollow, rhetorical one liners to win over public compassion. By the way... its not about black or white.. because all our hearts are red... seriously!! get out of here with that garbage.. if the kid was not black, this would have never gotten any attention.
No. He was a self-appointed neighborhood watchman who didn't follow national neighborhood watch guidelines. They are never supposed to carry a gun and never supposed to confront anyone. It's neighborhood WATCH. Not neighborhood chase down, confront, and shoot. He disregarded all advice and guidelines he was given. That makes him a vigilante.
The phone conversation is NOT evidence, it's hearsay. Nobody knows what was really said on that call. If the prosecution tries to use that, they are foolish.
That goes both ways dude. If Martin didn't succumb to his thuggary, he wouldn't have gotten shot either. If you take a step back and look at this objectively, you will see that you have NO right to attack someone just because someone is watching what you are doing by following you, but you DO have the right to shoot someone if they are attacking you. That being said, the willfully ignorant are the people taking your side of the argument.
It doesn't work that way. If that's how the law worked, you could just walk down the street and kill anyone you wanted and just say you FELT threatened.
Her testimony is garbage. It's hearsay, she didn't SEE anything. She had NO IDEA what was really going on.
...you said I didn't have a link that stated what I said, and I did...whether or not you agree with it, I provided backing for what I said...I think I deserve an apology because you were wrong... Kabuki Joe
Its Florida you insulated liberal. Everyone has a gun. Good luck getting a Florida jury to believe that having a gun constitutes criminal intent.
Actually given the map I saw it's pretty clear that Zimmerman was headed back to his truck. Its basically a looped path. He lost him and ran into him by accident.
he walked behind the buildings because he was going to back to his truck? did he think he parked on a sidewalk?
Wrong. It falls under the hearsay exception of Excited Utterance. It's going to be admitted. There's nothing that says that a witness must be an EYE witness. In fact, there are supreme court cases that state that even the blind have a constitutional right to testify. If we follow your train of logic, a blind girl that was raped would never be able to prosecutor her rapist even though she may be able to identify him by the sound of his voice, his smell, or other factors.
I predict as a few others that Zim will be found guilty of a lesser charge of manslaughter. 1) he did shoot and kill the person. 2)the person was not in the act of committing a crime and actually did reside in the complex
We'll find out at trial. For right now, there is Probable Cause. Which is why Zimmerman is sitting in jail right now.
And many gun owners -- including myself -- have come out and said Zimmerman was wrong. Only extremist neo-cons would take your position.
True, but she cannot say with any assurance what he was actually doing, only what he said. Timing will probably be the issue more than anything.
Was anything ever said about what kind of cell phones Martin & Zimmerman were using? That is: were they hand held or pinned to their shirts? It's not likely that anyone would attack someone else while holding a phone. Where were the phones when the police arrived and retrieved them?