Should a religious employer be exempt from anti-discrimination laws?

Why does it matter to the argument? Why haven't you explained your objective views on the principles of rights and justice? That's right, you don't have any.

 

By Kenvin's law, that means you are a Catholic man who dresses in short skirted schoolgirl's outfits and wears a crew cut and listens to the Beatles exclusively. Otherwise, you could not possibly advocate for the right of anyone to do any of those things.

 

People aren't stupid. If someone comes out and says discrimination should be legal it means they think discrimination is ok and should be allowed. They are likely to cowardly to discriminate the same way they are too cowardly to openly defend this "liberty". Patrick Henry would be so proud of your courage to defend freedom anonymously online.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Circumstantial

 

Allowing business to discriminate hurts the freedom of those being discriminated against. If a real liberty was being denied then there would be actual people trying to change the law to increase freedom, but that isn't the case. As it stands angry racists and bigots are only complaining on line with fake names. That is the only arguement needed.

 

I am winning. If you want the law changed work to change it. If true liberty is at stake then act like it.

 

All you folks with your panties in a bunch about being forced to hire people because of anti discrimination laws are making much ado about nothing. An employer would have to literally try to get in trouble for discrimination in the hiring process, "I'm sorry sir but we don't want any ______(fill in random race, religion, gender here)______ working here". It is very difficult to suss out the reason a person was not hired. Now promoted and fired are a little different, but if you don't hire any of _____________ you're okay in all but the most unusual circumstances.

 

"Panties in a bunch"? How misogynist!

 

Nope. Never said that. Now you are outright lying. How pathetic.

Once again, show me where I complained.

 

knickers in a knot?

 

Every post of yours is a complaint. You don't like the civil rights act, and we all get it. You think whites should be with in the law to show the lesser races their proper place in the world. So what is your business, and why do you think it would benefit if you didn't have to serve minorities?

 

Got me thinking. A women who will only sleep with heterosexual white guys. Lets sue her for discrimination. She has to sleep with black guys or else she's a bigot. Forget the fact that she'll be a slut.

 

LOL I have seen that silly analogy repeated many times now, but that doesn't make it any less stupid.

So what business do you run, and how is this law harming you?

 

Another thoguth if a religious employer wants to openly discriminate they can pay taxes. Seems fair to me! They seem to want a hands off government approach, however when it goes against "their" beliefs, not the God they pray to it gets a little sticky. I think if they want to play that game, they certianly can start paying taxes. They want protection from the Government when it only benefits them. I think it is kinda like the spoiled child that gets everything he wants, then when he gets beat up, he runs crying to big brother to solve the problem under the guise that it is trampling on religious freedom. However we all know Jesus treated people equally and was a socialist that did not judge anyone. Hmmm makes you wonder if religion lost it appeal the moment people tried to hide bigotry behind the good book!

 

I'm not entirely disagreeable to the idea that churches should be subject to the same unjust system of taxation as any other entities, but what is it that churches "get"? I think you mistake being left alone with obtaining some good or service. It's like saying that a person who walks through an alley unmolested while everyone else gets mugged is like a spoiled child because he gets through safely when others must give up their cash to the mugger. It's illogical.

That being said, I have no argument against churches not being mugged just like everyone else come tax time.

 

Is it not fair to say that churches get to have their cake and eat to. What some churches want is to openly work outside US law, yet do not want to pay for the protection. I think there would be several Mob bosses that would have a major problem with this type of business arrangement.

 

This is a joke, right?

Employers should be allowed to violate any laws that stand in the way of profit-making. It's a God-given right sanctioned by the Pope.

And you know how holy he is.

 

What protection are they getting when forced to associate with those whom they do not want to associate or provide services they do not want to provide?

 

They get the same protection as everyone else. That a bigot with the only gas station or grocery store in town can't refuse to sell you the things you can't live with out.

 

I expect that when someone talks big talk about freedom and liberty, and how they are willing to fight and die for it, and they are like the freedom lovers of the past like George Washington, or Patrick Henry that they should have the same courage that the freedom lovers they compare themselves to did. Otherwise its just a waste of time.

 

If they witheld the information knowing full well that they wouldn't be hired?

 

Certainly.

 

not if you lied to get the job.

 

Yeah we know. You think that an Emo Homo should have the right to sue because Playboy didn't do a centerfold of them.

 

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