So Marijuana Isn't a Gateway Drug Huh?

“Here’s the people that have problems with pot, ready? LOSERS!… If pot (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up your life, it’s because pot got there first. It could have been cheeseburgers, scratch tickets, the horse races… A plant that makes you look at the world in a more humble way, it makes food taste better, it makes you silly, it makes you want to love your friends more, makes sex better… If that (*)(*)(*)(*)s up your life, YOU are an IDIOT!”
— Joe Rogan

Now i personally can not stand pot, but that doesnt mean i dont think it should be legal, hell if my kid was doomed to abuse a substance but i got to pick which one, it would be pot.

 

And indeed they have been lied to.

Here in the NL, where you can buy pot opening in shops, the Dutch have the lowest useage rate in the West.

 

I hope this is sarcasm, it's so utterly and tremendously wrong if (sadly) it is not sarcasm.

 

Only in studies of ultra-strong types, where the canaboid and THC ratio is not maintained.

Stress in a persons job is also linked to mental illness, hell, reading some posts on this thread could give you a mental turn.

 

I have seen folks get quite mental on alcohol.

I never said Pot was harmless .. and it is true that anything can be abused. The fact of the matter is that the overwhelming majority of people who use or have used pot are not in mental institutions and are leading happy normal lives.

The second point is that when we are talking about making laws there needs to be consistency.

Can you imagine if we start making laws on the basis of ( some study showed some rediculously small link between A and harm so lets ban A)

Do I really need to list all the things that would be included in that list to make my point ?

Once you have extablished "harm" there is a second boundary that must be crossed when making something law.

Does the state have the right to tell people what they can and can not do with their own bodies on the basis of (It may cause harm) regardless of the level of harm ?

I bet if you put the stats up .. folks who use Pot that have mental illness vs folks who been harmed as a result of sex (disease, pregnancy, children of single mothers, bad relationships, ostracism from friends and family, violence due to fighting over women, and so on) we would end up banning sex before Pot.

 

omg...really? We have to do this still? Guess the chances that we can come to a consensus on governmental principles and fix this mess we're in are pretty slim if we still have to argue about pot. Pinheads!

You say that pot is a gateway drug and this one junkies opinion proves it. LOL. fine. I have an idea; Go (*)(*)(*)(*) yourself. grow up (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s. How about if we say to you,"medical marijuana is bull(*)(*)(*)(*), we just want to get high. And we don't know about the gateway bull(*)(*)(*)(*), maybe it is. maybe fruit loops are a gateway cereal. lol. SO what? How about a free person with individual liberty that he believes is his from birth and can not be taken from him wants to smoke pot and doesn't think he owes you or the government or anyone an explanation or excuse? how about that? 12 steppers always say stupid (*)(*)(*)(*). they have just gone to great lengths to convince themselves they are worthless defects. of course they are going to be open to throwing away everything they ever knew and likely to not trust what seems obvious and self evident. they are broken people who survive by immersion in group think, group life, and authoritarian finger wagging.


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Who cares about gateway drugs and the like?

If I want to smoke a joint and snort a line of coke off a hooker's arse that should be my business.

 

Over 700,000 people die just in America from prescription drugs... enough said.

There are perceived threats, and real threats, open your eyes people.

 

As far as I'm aware there are no recorded deaths from marijuana. Alcohol? Tobacco? Prescription pharmaceuticals?
So why are people imprisoned for posession of marijuana? Because it's illegal. The reason why it's illegal tends to bring conversations to a rapid halt while people grope for an answer.

 

Nonsense; you might want to try something else, but it isn't as if you have no free will. Smoke a joint; I believe it's highly improbable that you'll feel the need to progress onto something harmful.

 

That would be very unhygenic dude

 

If it were true, most Dutch people would be hard drug addicts, since most have tried when young, but they are not.

Mac has taken a view here which has zero supporting evidence.

 

We should trust the anecdotal word of a junkie as opposed to what the research tells us?

http://oas.samhsa.gov/NSDUH/2k9NSDUH/2k9Results.htm#5.2



Not much of a gateway if people decide not to walk through it...

 

The most dangerous thing about weed that I can think of is this - the realization that agreeing with people on the left about something, even if it's only this one little thing, could scare the living crap out of you and cause you to question your sanity.

 

And, a serial killer blamed his murders on pornography. Correlation does not equal causation. The gateway might well be the entrance into a drug subculture where, once you've entered, someone takes you by the hand and leads you down the path.

 

Correlation is not causation.

The prevalent theory of addiction these days is that there is an underlying comorbid disorder that when treated will subsequently treat the addiction. It has very little to do with the "high" for addicts. That's why you can drink and not become an alcoholic, but someone else can't.

 

I have it from a reliable source that "mother's breast milk" is a gateway drug.

 

Being born and breathing is the gateway to everything. Pot was fine with humanity for thousands of years...then came Prohibition and when it ended, more people were smoking the evil weed and didn't buy as much booze, so that industry paid a few congressmen to introduce a bill making it illegal...guess what sales went up...right, booze.

 

I love it when people smoke weed and get scared... try it again, and this time calm down

 

He is wrong.

The fact that he could not handle it is not evidence that it is a gateway drug. You could just as well say that smoking or alcohol or caffeine are gateway drugs.

The fact that someone you know is an alcoholic is not evidence that alcohol is a gateway drug either.

 

Bull! Been smoking for over 40 yrs and never even had the desire to try anything else. Don't make stupid blanket statements. Everyone is different.

 

so people who get into drugs start with the easiest to find and least dangerous.....shocker.

I bet most people drink beer before trying heroin also.

 

Personally, I think more people should smoke pot, then maybe they would mello the frack out.

 

Who cares? Drugs should be legal.

 

Well - smokin weed does make ya forget what you... what you.. uhhh... I'll get back to ya on that.