Bennett on State of HI: "I can't seem to get them to say 'yes.'

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  1. TaraAnne

    TaraAnne Banned

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    1200 hundred of them to be exact lol. Bennet is a birther period !
     
  2. paco

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    But not as it pertains to ballot access in another state. You are disregarding the events laid out in the OP. Bennett has done all that he was supposed to do since Day One. He went through the proper channels and simply requested that the state of Hawaii verify Obama's birth records for him; an understandable request given the sensitive nature of those top secret documents. Hawaii responded by asking if Arizona's CHIEF OF ELECTIONS had the authority to request such a verification for a political candidate. Bennett responded by saying that he could not include the candidate on Arizona's ballot without that verification. That's it.

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    Now explain to us why FF&C needed to be invoked in that simple scenario, Shiva.
     
  3. SFJEFF

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    Apparently Bennett did request the same information from Michigan for Mitt- which I frankly didn't expect.

    And Michigan told him the same thing as Hawaii did- go through the proper process and channels and then we will respond.

    Basically both Hawaii and Michigan required Bennett in both cases to comply with their state law's- which is of course as it should be.

    Now if Barack Obama had presented Bennett with a certified copy of his birth certificate, and Bennett refused it, then we would have had an argument under the FF&C.

    But what we are left with is that Hawaii, once again, clearly and unequivocally declared Barack Obama to have been born in Hawaii.

    And Birthers are of course crying foul.
     
  4. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Birthers think that Hawaii is a foreign country. The fact that Obama was born there validates their belief. According to their logic it's impossible for a black man to become President because it means that their efforts to suppress blacks in America for 390 years fail and one got through to actually become President. That thought drives them nuts, which is why they actually want Obama to be a foreigner. They don't really like that idea but it's better than Obama being a native born American black man.
     
  5. paco

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    Michigan only did it because Hawaii did it. Gosh forbid that Mitt Romney's home state should just hand over that verification without an argument, and thus having all the Obamites cry RACISM for cooperating so willingly in favor of the white candidate, while inadvertently making the halfbreed candidate look bad for being so secretive about his past!
     
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    why do you feel the need to lie, when it's so easy to point out?
     
  7. paco

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    Because Obama failed kindergarten.
     
  8. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The US Constitution establishes the eligibility requirements for President and while the States can define specific documentation requirements for candidates, such as furnishing a certified copy of their birth certificate from their state of origin, the 14th Amendment's equal protection clause requires the States to be uniform in these requirements for all candidates. A certified birth certificate from any state cannot be disputed by any other state under the Full Faith and Credit clause of the US Constitution.
     
  9. Really People?

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    So, still ignoring the Full Faith & Credit clause in the Constitution?
     
  10. Really People?

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    Because HI has already verified Obama's BC, and, under FF&C, AZ has to accept that...

    Very simple (*)(*)(*)(*)...
     
  11. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    I actually feel sorry for the residents of Arizona because of Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett's actions. There are about 6 1/2 million residents in Arizona and for them to be represented by someone that apparently has the IQ of a piece of petrified wood representing about 1,200 in Arizona that share this same IQ is a disgrace. Literally everyone in the United States has known since 2008 that Obama was a natural born citizen of the United States. He released a copy of his COLB that clearly established that as a fact. Since then the Hawaii Dept of Health that issued the COLB has repeatedly confirmed that Obama was born in Honolulu Hawaii in 1961 and is a natural born citizen of Hawaii and the United States.

    Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett is an embarassment that the citizens of Arizona really need to rid themselves of. He is disgracing the State of Arizona with his stupidity.
     
  12. snakestretcher

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    Sadly this is the uncomfortable truth that no birther here has the guts to admit to.
     
  13. snakestretcher

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    Wow, the racists are really coming out of the closet now! We've had 'coon', now we have 'halfbreed'. I wonder what delightful appelation is next...

    People like that disgust me and every other decent-thinking person.
     
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    Not true at all. The Maricopa County Sheriff Department has found that the certificate is a forgery. The FF&C can be challenged. It's true.
     
  15. SFJEFF

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    No....not a word of truth in your statement.
     
  16. SFJEFF

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    Certainly, the only reason Michigan followed Michigan State law is because of what Hawaii did......

    Birthers lol
     
  17. Shiva_TD

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    Sheriff Joe Arpaio has never seen the State of Hawaii certified COLB for Barack Obama so there is no way on Earth for him to declare it a forgery. More Birther BS by Joe Arpaio who is a known racist. The US Justice Dept has already filed a lawsuit against Sheriff Joe Arpaio's office on racism charges.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57431647/justice-dept-sues-arizona-sheriff-joe-arpaio/
     
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    'halfbreed'? My Birthers true colors come out:

    Definition of HALF-BREED
    often offensive
    : the offspring of parents of different races; especially : the offspring of an American Indian and a white person
    — half–breed adjective, often offensive


    n. Offensive
    A person of mixed racial descent, especially a person of Native American and white parentage.



    Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/half-breed#ixzz1vuX05mG3

    half breed 127 up, 44 down
    a racist term for a mix race person
     
  19. HB Surfer

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    Source? Proof? Or are you just making crap up again?

    Birthers never brought race into it... only Liberals do that with their false cries of racism.... WOLF ... WOLF.... WOLF!!!! You are the boy that cried wolf.

    Again... any proof? Source? Liberals are the only ones bringing up race.

    (Note: I believe Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a legitimate President of the United States. I just have little tolerance for straight out liars and race baiters.)
     
  20. SFJEFF

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    Paco(about 10 posts back):
    "while inadvertently making the halfbreed candidate look bad for being so secretive about his past! "

    In this very same thread.

    However most Birthers are careful to avoid using overt racist themes, but just coincidentally are only concerned about whether the black candidate is eligible. Other Birthers are our racist Birthers who start threads like "Blacks are more stupid than Whites because Blacks never invented writing". They don't come out and say "I am a Birther because Barack Obama is black" but they start overtly racist and anti-black threads and posts- and start Birther threads.

    You can consider that coincidence if you want. I don't.
     
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    I know that liberals place all kinds of "Code Words" into their lexicon and attribute it to Conservatives. I watched Chris Matthews do it last night like a total idiot and have heard many Liberals do the same thing.

    "Food Stamps" is not code word for "blacks". Whoever makes this crap up is so entirely intellectually dishonest or just screwed in the head it's disturbing to know that people think there are actual "code words".
     
  22. paco

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    I'm a halfbreed myself, so this argument is moot. I'm as white as Obama is. :mrgreen:
     
  23. Shiva_TD

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    If anything it's a code word for single white women with dependent children as they are the greatest single beneficiaries of the food stamp (SNAP) program which costs about $80 billion/yr.
     
  24. Really People?

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    Your entire post is complete bull(*)(*)(*)(*), and you know it...
     
  25. fiddlerdave

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    Are you sure about that?

    There is a heckuva a lot of elderly folks depending on them to survive.
     

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