Gay people's opinion should not be taken into account in the marriage debate

Care to name even one such state. Gays arent prohibited from marrying. THEY CHOOSE not to marry someone of the opposite sex because they prefer sexual relations with people of the same sex that they are.

 

And that makes no difference at all. Families are the stable base of society, born, surrogate, inseminated, adopted....loving families are what keep this country going. Same sex families are everywhere and growing. You only want children born and raised by two opposite sex parents to have any importance.

I've asked you before, what about all the other children in all the other families?? Why are they not as important???

 

Thats private property "used by the public for purposes of vehicular travel or parking". Did you even read what you quoted?

 

They are important. But those families headed by a gay couple are no more important than the wide variety of combination of adults that can make up a stable home. Gays insist that families made up of gay couples be given preferential treatment for no other reason than the fact they happen to be gay.

 

You must be really desperate to resort to this lame excuse for an argument. Gays are prohibited from marrying [other gays]. Now stop making a drama over the slightest ambiguities, especially when they do nothing to forward your argument.

 

A) If we choose to, we do provide grandkids. Both my sister and I have two children a piece.
B) Any FEAR of homosexuals is based on ignorance and can easily be overcome by education. However, most people don't want to know the truth.

 

Sounds tempting!!!

 

Fear of homosexuality is historical mixed with genetical evolution. The truth as you put it,is deeply complicated. The people who you view as negative to your views. Are behaving the same way. As those citizens in that roman documentary i watched.

I have no idea how you like to change that pattern that has outlasted empires, nations and hairstyles.

 

It's mostly religious. Few religions view homosexuality in a positive light. Remove the religion, and more often than not, people mind their own business.

There are definitely exceptions to this rule, but honestly, most atheists that have a problem with gays are just (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s in general. They don't have the excuse of indoctrinated bigotry, so instead, their views and actions show more of an innate hatred on their part.

 

I disagree. It is mostly just bigotry. People just hide behind religion to make it seem like it is something other than bigotry.

"God sayz itz bad, therefore I be not a bigot !"

 

Notice how your quoted material doesnt as much as even mention "Gays", let alone prohibits gays from marrying. And you are the only one with lame arguments you cant back up. I and my close platonic friend are both heterosexual and are prohibited from marrying, REGARDLESS of our sexuality.

 

What about state statutes and state constitutions banning same-sex marriage do you think doesn't prohibit gays from marrying? Are you still stuck on the "BUT GAYZ CAN STILL MARRY OPPOSITE SEX" derp? I mean, I know you like to dodge the point when your arguments fall flat on their face, but come on.

Please identify one argument I can't back up. Because I can name several of yours:

1. "Gays can't marry because marriage is about procreation." Sterile people can marry. (Owned).
2. "There are no laws prohibiting gays from marrying." Gay couples, a.k.a same-sex couples, cannot marry in MANY states.

So are you making the "Gays and Straights are equal because they both have the same restrictions" argument? I'm so glad that you are bringing that up, because I obliterated that argument in another of Spacecricket's threads the other day and no conservative could respond.

Say some country without First Amendment protection outlawed the practice of Christianity. Both Christians and non-Christians would have the same restrictions. Perfectly just, MIRIGHT?

 

Have you noticed Male and Female.
Current regulation does not require to be fertile and that is good thing, because no one want to burden government with stupid requirements.

 

That is not true, many people understand that is special rights for gays is unconstitutional.

 

Which is why nobody is asking for special rights for gays.

 

That is an interesting view. That removing religion and belief of religion from society will somehow enlighten society. Although 5 minutes after it happens. Somewhere a fight will break out, to restore human karma of all things violent and intolerable.

This view i give is homosexuality is historically shunned is the basic human nature we so often over look. The fire that drives us for passion and the same fire that burns.

 

Not religion but human nature. The same fire that drives us for passion in this case gay rights. Is the same fire that will burn.

 

Then don't give them special rights, don't even ask if they are gay, simply the stupid requirement that couples be of different sexes.​

 

Even if you did not ask them it does not mean that they are not special.

 

Requirement Opposite sex is necessary because you cannot regulate fundamentally different couples with the same law.

 

???? It no more prohibits gays than it prohibits my platonic friend and I from marrying.

 

What regulation is impeded by allowing a same sex couple to marry?​

 

Awesome question!!

 

You conveniently omitted the portion of my post where I completely destroyed this childish line of reasoning.

HTH

 

Every state where courts created this right to gay marriage, all did so exclusively for gay people. Marriage limited to opposite sex couples was ONLY unconstitutional in that it prevents gays and lesbians from marrying and only gays and lesbians receive the benefit of heightened scrutiny when assesing the constitutionality of discrimination. Special treatment, because they are so special.