Romney Picks Ryan for Veep...Bye-Bye Socialism....

If we address general revenues and expendatures then the DOD budget is most certainly the elephant in the living room consuming roughly one-half of all general revenues. Remember that Social Security and Medicare are not paid for with general revenues. They are paid for with dedicated FICA/Payroll taxes which have always been "in the black" and not contributing to the national debt. Yes, the reserves from FICA/Payroll taxes is going to run out and those programs do face future financial problems but not a single dime of the $15+ trillion national debt was caused by Social Security or Medicare.

Ryan's problem is that his proposal for Social Security and Medicare is to simply cut benefits. The Democrats are correct that Ryan wants to gut Social Security and Medicare because that's what he proposes. There is a solution to both Social Security and Medicare where benefits aren't cut but these solutions will call for short term tax increases and Ryan isn't even looking at the solution. As designed Social Security and Medicare are addressing a symptom of a problem as opposed to the actual problem. Ryan hasn't even seen this fundamental problem.

Ryan also lacks any creditability in what he says. On his website he calls for bipartisan solutions and he hasn't offered a single bipartisan solution as head of the House Budget Committee. Basically he's a partisan liar when we compare what he says to what he does.

 

Mitt is anything but a progressive. Mitt was governor of the most liberal state in the union and for him to pass any type of Conservative policy would have been impossible since the mass state senate was approximately made up of 90% democraps. But by picking a Conservative policy wonk in Ryan, you will see a team that cannot possibly lose come November, and of course the nation will benefit because of it.

 

http://iroots.org/2012/08/11/paul-ryan-begs-for-tarp-video/

 

This is total nonsense. We all know that Ryan has submitted a plan to fix medicare. When he says he wants bipartisan support for his plan, he means it. Show me where the dems and in particular where obama have submitted a plan to address the ultimate demise of these two eventual bankrupt programs? You can't tell me for they haven't offered anything. Just like they (the dems) for the first time in history haven't given us a budget. Your dems are seriously absent from any and all leadership and policy accomplishments. They're dead in the water.

 

Ryan only appeals to far-right conservatives that were already going to vote for Romney. At the sametime Ryan's far-right budgetary policies will drive moderate Republicans and Independents away from voting for Romney. With Romney's disapproval rating already at 49% among registered voters and going up I don't see how he can possibly win now. If over one-half of all voters oppose the candidate it's virtually impossible for them to get elected. Ryan hurts Romney's re-election campaign and doesn't help it.

 

Ryan's plan doesn't "fix" Medicare. It merely cuts benefits until expendatures match revenues. Medicare currently only pays 90% of the cost of benefits which, in fact, drives up costs because only highly paid (and expensive) specialists can afford to treat Medicare patients. A GP loses money unless they simply refer the patient to a specialist. Cutting benefits isn't a "fix" as far as seniors are concerned. Yes, it prevents future finacial problems but it does so by an unacceptable means.

 

Both seem to be true.

Once put in a request chit that we disband the standing Army...and maintain a Navy. I never got that one back. I got back every one of the others, even the two forged by the Officer and Gentleman who denied me Captain's Mast and signed the Captain's name (legal told me to walk the third one to the top), and the one suggesting we use an old ship as a brothel (got that one back too), just never did get the other one back.

The Navy is great for punitive actions, but not for police actions; you could bomb Bagdhad back to the stone age, but not do regime change with boots on the ground unless they were really dry Marines with cracked lips.

I had to push my truck out of the Auto Shop because Democrats passed a law that the military could not do TAD to such things civilians could do, so the costs went up. The guys TAD to the Auto Shop that were replaced by civilians were mad as hell. The Seabees used to dig holes, build stuff, and then undo what they did and start over, because Cotter Pin's law said civilians had to do what Seabees do in war, so the waiter down at the Whale's Tail in the Channel Islands got a job roofing our hanger for $15 an hour, while Seabees dug a hole and filled it in, over and over and over again, because it is more efficent and cost effective to have MAKE WORK.

We went from Point Mugu to Maine to get Lobster for an Officer's party, in a sky equipped C-130, stayed overnight, had nice family take us to dinner, on the way there I pissed on New York fracking New York, because they cheated me on the Rocky and Bullwinkle stamp set. I am a big kid now.

Maintaining the ability to fight two conventional police actions, is all because we don't want the Nuclear Navy to bomb them back to the stone age.

The real problem with entitlements getting brought up with the budget, not enough people with good jobs.

Isn't that what they want to fix?

Hey, if the 25% works, if going from global to regional works, hey, jobs means you don't have to worry. America working can pay down the debt...and keep the poverty level entitlements too for a rainy day.

Just don't stick the entitlement trust fund into an deregulated Savings and Loan, daddy lost a chuck of his retirement savings when one of those went belly up without warning. Well, then again, U.S. News and World Report did warn about that deregulation during Cotter Pin, last page, can't remember the issue though.

So let's do the 25%, deregulate, and consider shoving some diamonds up your butt every day, for when "Voted NO on regulating the subprime mortgage industry" crap happens again, they might be less painful than American Gold Eagles.

 

Doing nothing, the democrats plan, is predicted to only cover 75% of the cost in the near future. In this case, either these programs or other programs will suffer or we borrow even more. Something has to be done to fix it or it will just turn us into another Greece.

 

You will have to back up your last statement with a link.

 

It's a shame if Ryan hurts Romney's ticket. It is going to take bold folks like Ryan to turn this country around. It won't be painless.

 

According to last years SSA report the Social Security Trust fund wll be exhausted in 2036. That is not the "near future" but it is a matter of great concern.

http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/pr/trustee11-pr.htm

The Medicare Trust Fund is far more urgent to deal with as it is expected to be depleted by not later than 2017 based upon a 2009 report.

http://www.healthcarefinancenews.com/news/medicare-trust-fund-be-exhausted-2017-report-reveals

In fact neither the Democrats or Republicans are addressing the real problem which was identified and then ignored in the 1930's when the FDR adminstration created Social Security and in the 1960's when the LBJ adminstration created Medicare. Both Republicans and Democrats continue to focus on a symptom of the problem as opposed to the problem itself.

So what was the problem that was identified in the 1930's?

That is the question that both Democrats and Republicans need to address and they're not.

 

It's going to take bold politicans from both parties that forge bipartisan solutions that address the actual problems and Paul Ryan is not one of those politicans. Paul Ryan offers a partisan agenda that doesn't address the real problems.

 

Ryan's approach uses realistic arithmetic. Obama likes the GM bailout even though tax payers have lost $25 billion on the deal. Obama wants to do more "GM-like bailouts" - thus showing his idiocy. Obama is a retard salesman who loses a little on every deal but is gonna make it up in volume. Ryan & Romney can do math - so I believe them when they talk about deficit reduction (You have to be a fool to believe Obama).

 

Ryan's approach uses realistic arithmetic. Obama likes the GM bailout even though tax payers have lost $25 billion on the deal. Obama wants to do more "GM-like bailouts" - thus showing his idiocy. Obama is a retard salesman who loses a little on every deal but is gonna make it up in volume. Ryan & Romney can do math - so I believe them when they talk about deficit reduction (You have to be a fool to believe Obama).

 

I think you meant (you have to be a fool to believe either party).

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/merrill...-the-2-6-trillion-social-security-trust-fund/

"...And the only way the trust fund can get some cash to pay Social Security benefits is if the federal government draws it from general revenues or borrows the money—which, of course, it can’t do because of the debt ceiling..."

I thought this was common knowledge.

 

Paul Ryan is not perfect. But the idea that he only appeals to those who were gonna vote for Romney anyway is wrong. I had no intention of voting for Romney... unless he chose Ryan. Not Rubio, not Pawlenty and God forbid Christie. Ryan has not always voted the way I would have him vote, but he did tell pbama that his health care bill was unconstitutional. When he said that, I forgave him for TARP and his other bad votes. I was disappointed when he did not run for president.

Did everyone notice how the democrats always compare the republican VP choice to pbama and not Biden? The fact is that a running mate is the first big decision made by any would-be president. Romney scored, IMO.

 

Its time to dig in to Ryan's past..and it look bad...

Paul Ryan sold shares on same day as private briefing of banking crisis
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/13/paul-ryan-sold-shares-banking-crisis

This guy is another con artist..tool...

All of you have internet... USE IT

 

The great misconception is that the repayment of money borrowed from Social Security is "paying" for Social Security when, in fact, it is paying for past expendatures that should have been paid for with general revenues. Technically the US Treasury notes held in the SS Trust Fund are "demand" notes and the SSA could demand redemption for all $2+ trillion tomorrow and the Treasury would be required to redeem them. Also of note is the fact that these Treasury Notes are already a component of the $15+ trillion national debt. To issue new notes to replace old notes does not change the total amount of the national debt. They are off-setting promissory notes and it's merely a roll-over of the debt.

My problem is that we have an obligation based upon a welfare program that addresses a symptom of a problem identified in the 1930's but which doesn't address the actual problem. It's going to cost a lot of money to either maintian the welfare benefits or change the program to address the actual problem.

Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney both address Social Security and Medicare with slightly different but similiar proposals where both of them say, "We won't screw those that are 55 today but we will screw those that are under 55." That is not a viable solution. That has always been the problem with both Social Security and Medicare. They were always based upon screwing the next generation. Romney and Ryan are merely extending the problem that already exists and making it worse.

Ryan has given lip-service to actually addressing the problem but he hasn't presented a proposal and arguments that would result in a bipartisan support. Personally I don't believe he's given it adequite thought and his proposals made in comments, not contained on his website on the issue, are half-baked.

 

What are the real problems?

 

I always thought it was weird people focus on the merit argument of fiat vs sound currency, instead of attacking the insider trading of the FED, its private arms, and cronies. Especially when it is the top percentile who are being taken for a ride by the financial elite. If we ever get true representation back, and can't get rid of private forces in control of the monetary system, we must establish any FED knowledge of impending doom, and/or who will get bailed out, in a selected few's hands vs public knowledge must be SEC violations. Not only should the person trading be subject to jail time and heavy fines, but the FED insiders as well. Basically, in a just world Ryan would be in jail, not running as a VP. Obviously, democrats can't make this an issue, as they support this very nature of corruption, and live just as high on the hog from it.

 

This is true. I heard the words come out of Obama's mouth. He wishes to nationalize more industries on the backs of taxpayers.

 

Paul Ryan's favorite band is Rage Against the Machine. You boys are going to have to teach him the Texas Two-Step - from scratch. And quickly.

 

I don't know what's worse. The fact the GOP continues to push people exactly the same as those who've tarnished its reputation, or the fact such a large percentile still support the GOP in doing this. I guess one can get away with such decision making when the other side of the aisle is the very definition of ineffectual. Whether from some master plan to bankrupt our nation, or incompetence on a grand scale by both parties, there is still just one glaringly obvious truth. America is in sad, sad, shape.

 

Let me remind you that you have to somehow manage to get your beloved republicans elected before you start crowing about anything and so far it isn't a lock for your corn-fed boys.