Missouri Congressman says 'Legitimate Rape' Rarely Results in Pregnancy

He didnt say stop it he used the word try. Which the body tries to do.

You guys are (*)(*)(*)(*)ing amazing.

 

Probably mean legitimate rape as in cases like Duke Lacros team or in case where younger women cry rape because they got pregnant and they dont want to face their parents and society. Please show me where he even implies that rape is somehow fake.

 

He said 'legitimate' rape. What else would people think about that?

 

You are allowed to try to find the "code" in whatever anyone says. I am going by his comments in context. If you want to know what he meant about "legitimate" rape you will problem find out as the liberal media is frothing at the mouth on this one.

I tried to explain possibilities to you but you ignored what i wrote. Thats on you.

 

There comes a point when Grok should have just stopped trying to defend every instance of Republican or Conservative political, religious and ideological views, no matter how insane or moronic by all standards of all sides.

Things he could have done instead of actually attempting to defend this guys statements...

- Not comment. While he can't defend, he also can't make himself an example by digging such a deep hole for himself.

- Comment but clearly establish that he doesn't support him and finds his views disgusting.

There comes a point where Grok should have stopped. And he has clearly passed that point.

 

Summary of this thread so far:

Unreservedly Reject Akin's Ungodly Comment
3Link
Makedde
slashbeast
fiddlerdave
Panzerkampfwagen
keymanjim
liberalminority
waltky
The Wyrd of Gawd
toddwv
Burzmali
Hummingbird
johnnymo
webrockk
WatcherOfTheGate
frodly
<IF> Marius

Supports Akin / Akin Sympathizer
Grokmaster
AceFrehley
RP12

Unknown/Fence sitter/Apologetic
happy fun dude
theunbubba
Slyhunter
PatriotNews
Anders Hoveland
Ethereal
Azuki Bean

PS: These are not 100% accurate, let me know if I've put you in the wrong column and I'll edit the post.

Now a few words from myself. Sometimes people say or do stupid things and as a result an opportunity is created. Condemnation has to be universal and swift. His apology has be to quick and unreserved. We all live on the same planet and we all want a better planet, this is a common point.

 

if you live in his district, work against his re-election.

 

How the (*)(*)(*)(*) do i "support" Akin? I have no clue about his policies. I am just going by his comments while you guys rant and rave about one word and try to say he is saying raped women cant get pregnant. Which isnt what he said.

 

Put me in the "doesn't give a f***" column.

 

No one is saying he is claiming raped women can't get pregnant. They are shocked at this moron for saying "legitimate rape". You dont understand why that is offensive to people and women specifically.

Why defend this moron for using such stupid language when discussing rape?

 

That category sounds right to me. Of course what the guy said was idiotic nonsense, but unimportant nonsense.

This sort of story is the exact sort of thing which gets used to distract people from more legitimate problems and issues. This guy is clearly ignorant, and it is a problem that we elect such ignorant people to congress, but of all the offensive things Akin has done, this is very far down the list. He voted for the patriot act, and voted to make it permanent. Advocated to make online poker illegal. Advocates for the state to involve itself in the personal health decisions of women, and wants the state to outlaw a women's right to make health decisions about pregnancy, even if the pregnancy will lead to her death. He votes consistently in line with the promotion of elite corporate interests. For example in 2001 he voted for a bill which made bankruptcy MUCH easier for corporations, and then in 2004 voted for a bill making bankruptcy for regular people much more difficult(that's fun). Wants to make an amendment banning flag desecration(because that is the great problem facing this county at the moment, flag desecration). The ACLU gave him a 7% rating on civil rights, and he got a 0% rating on gay rights. He claims to be a strong advocate for the free market, but has a mixed record on trade and supports closing the border and strong border security(an extreme anti-market measure). He got a 0% rating on recognizing the separation between church and state. He voted for the Iraq War, supports invading Iran, and generally supports an interventionist imperial foreign policy. The point being, this is a man with a long history of support for anti-freedom initiatives and support for legislation in favor of big corporation, but in opposition to smaller businesses and regular people. Most of the positions he holds are offensive to anyone who supports freedom on most issues, and supports workers and the interests of the average American. One more idiotic factually inaccurate statement should not surprise anyone, especially one which doesn't actually effect any tangible legislation.

 

That is offensive, but his comment was NOT accurate either, which IS the real problem here. In fact, statistics show that rape has at best no impact on pregnancy in comparison to consensual sex. I showed statistics that about 3% of consensual sex will lead to pregnancy, while Grok hilariously pointed out that it was "only" 5% in cases of rape(without of course cross-referencing the conception rate among consensual sex to see if that was a low number or not). So the problem is not that he is offensive, it is that we have yet another elected official who is scientifically ignorant and ignorant of the world in general!! This statement is bad only because it is indicative of a larger ignorance exhibited by this man!!

 

Again how i am defending him? I have no idea what he meant by "legitimate" rape. And yes ToddW's thread that got deleted had the title claiming he said raped women cant get pregnant.

I have a funny feeling he copy and pasted his thread title from http://www.examiner.com/article/gop-senate-candidate-legitimate-rape-victims-don-t-get-pregnant from this ahem.

 

RP12 a lot of the list was guess work but even though I doubt I put you in the wrong category, ultimately you have the final say. If you're really unsure whether or not it was the trashiest political moment in US this year, than I can always move you into the Fencesitter's category. My basis for putting you on Akin's camp is simply because you're sending the message, on way or another, that there may be an element of truth that perhaps shouldn't entirely be dismissed; a view which falls light years - if not infinitely - outside common sense and reason.

In any particular year in the world it&#8217;s only inevitable that someone somewhere is gonna cross the proverbial redline. This was it.

 

Yes, there are women who lie about rape to cover up their affairs and they send men to prison. This is news to you?

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I feel like I am in the twilight zone.

Pregnancy from rape is rare. He is right.

So what is the issue here, besides trying to stir up something for the sake of trying to stir something up?

 

It's not that hard to figure out. Good lord.

He is talking about an actual legit rape. Not a rape where the woman is just throwing the claim out there to get at the man, but honest to god real rape.

 

Romny/Ryan distancing themselves from Akin....


that kind of bodes ill for a guy winning a US Senate seat when the Presidential nominee of his OWN PARTY not only won't support him, campaign with him....but calls him out for being an idiot.

McCaskill just won the election.

 

That's NOT what he was saying.

He was saying that in a "legitimate" rape women have some "ability" to prevent themselves from getting pregnant....so the cases where they "claim" to have been raped and gotten pregnant are false.

He's a moron....and the fact that Romney/Ryan and several other Repubs now are calling him that, only puts him and any DEFENDERS of him...out on the Fringe.

 

what a dumbass. Was he channeling Joe Biden when he said it ?

 

Rape is usually a one time thing, and is not always vaginal, with a women of child bearing years who is not using a contraceptive or is fertile to begin with. I would think these would be large contributing factors to a low rate of rapes resulting in pregnancies. People are upset that he seemed to be insinuating that it was the victim's fault for becoming pregnant.

From the article
"Answering a question about whether or not he thought abortion should be legal in the case of rape, Akin explained his opposition by citing unnamed bodily responses he said prevented pregnancy."

Probably not what he meant to convey, but understandable that people are offended and taking it that way. If someone is pro-life I can completely understand why they would also be against abortion of a pregnancy that resulted from rape. No reason in my opinion to compromise your principals and try to soften or make your stance more reasonable for the pro-choice crowd.

 

Actually, the body in high stress situations has an uncanny ability to shut down and defend itself. Now, having said that, how often does that exact thing happen?? I don't know my first thought is not very often because of the swiftness of the event.

Does that make the man a moron? No.

 

What is legitamit about rape, what I know it is a form of sexual assault. I seriously wonder how these candidates are screened out or chosen.

 

lol why don't you give it another read?

Justified ethical and legal weren't being used to describe a type of rape as I see it, they were used to describe what he was NOT using as characteristics for rape when he made a common usage mistake of the word legitimate.

 

Perhaps what he means by legitimate rape, is a rape that is forcible as opposed to a consensual sexual encounter in which the woman gets pregnant and has second thoughts about whether or not she consented. Or perhaps she was a bit intoxicated and had second thoughts the next day. Or maybe her boyfriend dumped her, so she got mad and claimed he raped her. Not like there haven't been thousands of men who have been falsely accused of rape.