Lance Armstrong stripped of Titles and Banned for Life

Let's review that for a second.

1999 TDF second place was Alex Zülle. In 1998 he was suspended for a high hematocrit level. Blood doping.

2000 TDF second place was Jan Ullrich. Suspended in 2006 for banned substances.

2000 TDF third place was Joseba Beloki. In 2006 he withdrew from the TDF due to allegations of doping in Operation Puerto.

2001 had the same top three.

2002 Joseba Beloki was second. Third place was Raimondas Rumšas, Caught with banned substances.

2003 Jan Ullrich was again second. Third was Alexander Vinokourov. Armstrong's team mate for years. Busted for steroids in 2007.

Armstrong was the best rider. Too bad they were all on drugs.

 

They were bike routes and PSAs. Everyone uses them. They keep everyone safe when cycling on our hillsides. Money's been spent on worse.
Esp when we were getting our investment back from cyclists wishing to train with the best, in a great, challenging, and safe locale.

Who said anything about the Feds??!

It would appear that reading comprehension is in order here. No one's "sports training" was paid for ... a county vote for bonds - used for improvements to streets BECAUSE of the huge increase in cyclists in a location in the hills full of curves and trees ... y'all done put the cart before the horse here.

The "sport" was paying us for improvements that benefited the whole city. geesh!

now that we've made the investment, who knows what will happen to the sport in this area. could be we'll be left holding the bag ... for what? ... a case with no evidence and only rumors against a man who is retired. pfft!

 

Great post.

This crushes the sport for generations to come. You can expect kids, youths, teens, etc... to shrug off this goat rodeo.

If you are going to strip someone of 7 titles in any sport... YOU BETTER SHOW INCONTROVERTIBLE EVIDENCE.

I have seen none.

They destroyed their own sport.... thankfully to me... I never liked it anyways.

 

Not even! It's a bunch of leftist weenies in the USADA that are trying to overstep their authority and saying he has no titles. The UCI has said they have no proof. It's the international community backing Armstrong. You are the one that needs to get over it.

 

That is what I read. The international body said to the USADA.... either you offer some proof or he keeps his titles. It seems we have some bureaucrats with a bug up their ass. Someone gave some small dick left winger a bit of power and look at him go!

 

Thank you.

And you are completely correct about dashing the hopes of future cyclists. This completely takes the winds out of their sails!

HB, you could not sit on the side of the road and watch these guys (and gals) climb straight up in 108 degrees without finding admiration for the work and dedication, esp when you saw them do it yesterday and you know they will be there tomorrow too, even if it hits 111.

Nothing good has come from this; it is sad all the way live.

and btw ... it's 7 TdF titles and an Olympic bronze medal.

 

Someone has a personal vendetta...simple as that.

 

The thing that makes this go is the fact that juicing is so prevalent in sports today.

Do you really think 270 pound guys can naturally run 4.5 forties?

Do you think pitchers can thnrow 200 innings a a year of 95 MPH gas and twelve inch yellow hammers without a boost?

 

No they haven't. You do understand there've been two well known TdF riders, count them - two!

This is a sport for the rest of the world, you get netball, rounders and rugby for girls.

The Vuelta a Espana is ongoing as we speak, the TdF this year was a huge success; cleaner now that team Sky (team GB) have got involved.

It's best that you guys stick to your bastardised version of games, mainly played by British school girls, except for the one where you cover yourselves in body armor becuase they're not man enough to play rugby.

 

tax payer funded....goes to feds. Sounds like a connection to me. Why should the gov't pay for a small number of kids with sports ambitions?

 

I suppose someone will find a way to deny the latest findings.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...conspiracy-in-sporting-history-say-USADA.html

 

Indeed, he probably will.

Unreal the depth at which doping is part of cycling. Our local boy, Levi, just lost a whole lot of credibility when it came out he doped for 7 years.

 

A truly idiotic statement.

 

Apparently, they were all doping.
If so, then Lance was still the best of the lot.
The whole thing is ridiculous.

 

Best of the American lot, you mean.

How will anyone ever know how much better were those non Americans who did not win because they were clean?

 

You know they were clean, how? The USADA is a self-appointed entity.

Sounds like sour grapes for whiney Euro-losers.

 

Personally I think something is really rotten afoot about all this.
Lance Armstrong,a once revered Icon of Olympic sports is now relegated to
being some Cheating,manipulating Doper and passer of Dope.
I don't buy this.I think given the amount of money and time,it was
easy to buy witnesses and statements and extract bull from the mouths of babes.
I think there might be some grand conspiracy afoot like there is with
our Founder's and Our Constitution to Demonize true Icons and Traditions
in favor of something like a universal Supreme Commander.
This a part and parcel of the way the Illumaniti is trying to take over the
minds of the world in some New World Order where there will not be any room for
Sports Icons.I think Lance ws targetted and Framed.Given the amount of money and
time any desired outcome can be acheived.
Look at OJ.The longest Trial this Century and it was Pure Bull.

 

How can one explain the 500-600 tests that Lance passed.
I think he's being framed.Just like the way Our Founder's are being
trashed.

 

Lance Armstrong is retired, which means that all of his sponsors left along with his career. These litigations cost money and would have taken years to fight in committee and cost him an arm and a leg, and in the end for what? Even if they had cleared his name, "Lance Armstrong" would have still been associated with "juicer". I think that, clean or not, Lance was wise to take the money and run. There is no real evidence that he did it anyway. The only "witnesses" are people that competed against him or simply wanted a piece of him. The international community still supports him; that's good enough for him and for me.

Just more liberal crap where true winners are demonized, and everybody should get a trophy just for showing up.

 

I think you have a problem with authority. You are prepared to believe anything if it isn't detrimental to your cause.

You are the typical American, living in the clouds fanatic and there are so many of them these days.

 

Whose authority? Does the USADA have any authority over you? Lance Armstrong was competing on an international level when he won all of those Tour de France championships. I find it ironic that you, a Canadian, would be in full support of an American committee overstepping its boundaries by telling the international community that its opinion doesn't mean squat compared to American "authority". I thought that you "anybody but America" people didn't like us Yanks bullying you global peons and telling you all what to do?

 

Under US Noahide laws adopted in 1991, the Pharisees in control of the sports league can convict any athlete based on the "testimony" of one witness.
That is why the US went to war against the Iraqi People based on lies. and his handler

 

They all dope. Armstrong is no different than 90+% of the professional cyclists. Armstrong doping only leveled the field.

Leave Armstrong alone. Its clearly a personal vendetta against Armstrong. If you punish Armstrong, then punish all cyclists since they all dope.

 

Are you on drugs? Do you always ignore facts when they don't suit you?

Man up and accept your hero is nothing but a cheating scumbag. Rather the way that Carl Lewis felt about Ben Johnson but didn't care until he, (Lewis) started losing races, when he spilt the beans.

Armstrong is just another in a long line of cheaters. Tiger Woods will probably be outed next by an American golfer when it will be claimed that many golfers knew about it and said nothing. Americans are like that.

 

I'm all for that. But as so many people here tell me, this is an American forum, so I hope you don't mind if I keep my comments about Americans, to Americans.