Time To Squash EVERY Homosexual Thread. Debate Me, I Dare You Christians.

He also says, "Go and sin no more."

 

If by vote you consider one to be judging then you have judged. If by an opinion you consider one to be condemning then you have condemned in the same light.

I do understand your point and though it is not completely invalid by your reckoning there can be no decisions made as all require discrimination in one form or another. Has one cast a stone?


We run into what many consider a problem; judging:

Matt 7:1“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. 6“Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.


We have not judged; we are turning our backs to sin. One who refuses to conform and make an effort to follow the Word causes themselves to be judged and we are simply doing as instructed by Paul. If I tell someone to stop using foul language in the House of the Father or leave; I have not judged. If I ask someone to stop misleading my children by the example they are setting; I have not judged. If I ask a parent to control their child and they see nothing wrong with what their child is doing or refuse to act and I turn away from them; I have not judged. If I tell someone they are going to hell because they did not give a tithe or make an offering; I have judged.


By accepting some people into our lives that do not bear fruit in hopes that they will; we may cause others to lose their way. Though this may be contentious issue for many there is also no Biblical foundation to change, a person who comes into the fold changes, the fold does not change for them, if they do not conform then we must rebuke them.

 

You are calling me judgemental when I simply informed you of passage. I said you can vote how you please but informed you scripture says not to judge others. This is not judgemental.

You are not turning your back to sin, you are voting to keep people from sinning. Standing in the way. Judging. Casting stones.

Look, you don't seem too smart so I won't waste too much more time with you. You keep trying to justify everything by the bible to cover up your hatred.

You can vote how you want to vote. I won't stand in the way of your decision because I"m not a judgemental (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Marriage is not some inalienable right. It was derived by Christianity to represent the marriage between a man and a woman. So gay people aren't losing any rights by not being able to get married. They have the same rights the rest of us have. That would be like me complaining about not being allowed in the WNBA. If tax benefits are your issue, then argue for civil unions. But for a "Democrat", your argument is weak. I'm beginning to think you are actually a Republican shill.

 

You are the one who is lacking in faculties. I have reasons other than the Bible here but you kept pushing the Bible issue. Do not take me for a fool for you are the one pushing things here. You can not debate this because you lack the intellect to do so.

Who are you to Judge me? You don't think I am too smart now. You called me an idiot in the opening of this thread. You are incapable of defending you position because you do not have one. There are gays here I respect and they do a hella better job of defending their point than you because you don't have one.

I mean the thread title states you want to debate. You failed on my first post. You continue to fail and will continue to fail.

Your entire premise is it is a sin not to vote for gay marriage? You said yourself:

So you expect people that believe this and accept it to also condone gay marriage? You are twisted man.

I gave you my stance and you tried to tie religion to it even though it had nothing to do with my religious beliefs.

You just fail here.

 

I'm with Archer about this.




Woodystylze, Judgment is not what you think it is. Asking gays, atheists, and other perverted freaks to leave your holy church, a HOUSE OF GOD, is not "judging" them. The problem with gays, atheists, liberals, and zionists, is they want to bring their SIN into the HOUSE OF GOD, into Truly Christian churches, WITHOUT THE IDEA THAT THEY ARE WRONG AND MUST REPENT FOR THEIR SINS! THEIR INTENTION IS TO SPREAD SIN AND PERVERT THE TRULY CHRISTIAN FAITH! This is the problem.

The State believes it can preach morality. But this is anti morality. It is immoral for liberals like you woodystylze and the state, to preach that homosexuals are equal with TRUE CHRISTIANS. You're not equal. You lead an inferior lifestyle and make inferior ethical and moral choices in your life. Now, you can call that statement a judgment of mine. Am I ready to be judged myself? Yes, then it is not a Sin to judge you. A TRUE CHRISTIAN can judge others, if HE is ready to be judged himself too. It is only after the TRUE CHRISTIAN has looked at his own life, his own sins, and repented, that he can judge others. It is acceptable to judge others, after you have accepted your own SINS in life, after you realize your own mistakes. It is a SIN to judge others for your own SINS.

This means, if I had gay sex, and then preached to you that gay sex is wrong and evil, then I am a hypocrite. This is the sin of mine. But, I have not had gay sex. I am innocent of that sin. So, I can judge you and other liberals, about your SIN of gay sex. I can tell you stop if you try to bring your SIN into the HOUSE OF GOD. I can ask you to stop being gay, within the extent of our country's laws and courts. However, you have the "right", apparently, to be a sexual degenerate in this country.

That's none of my business, until you try to bring your SIN into TRULY CHRISTIAN CHURCHES AND FAMILIES. That is when I am set on fire, and must do all in my power, to stop you and you other zio-liberals. I must do all in my power to prevent this perversion, this SIN, from entering the TRULY CHRISTIAN FAITH.

 

This is a good point... That would require a drastic change in the way things are done.

 

why not just keep government out of marriage all together ?

 

I edited my response. Let me be clear, homosexuals and other SINNERS, are welcome into TRULY CHRISTIAN CHURCHES only after they realize that their sins are wrong, and they are going to pay for these SINS. If a homosexual wants to go to church, to repent for his sins, to learn why his homosexual ways are an ill and bane on society, and why his false sense of family and lusting for flesh are a bad influence on children, THEN HE WILL BE WELCOME!

That's the problem. I wasn't clear about it before, so don't accuse me of saying SINNERS are unwelcome in TRULY CHRISTIAN CHURCHES. These types are unwelcome, like atheists, liberals, homosexuals, and zionists, when their pure intention is to spread sin, slander the church, and try to invite women priests or homosexual priests. This is a GREATER SIN THAN THE OTHER SINS!!! This is unacceptable!!!!!

A sinner who is not ready to repent, not ready to change his or her life, is not fit for TRULY CHRISTIAN CHURCHES and a higher, superior life, a spiritual life. You must first want to change, accept change, change what you can, and change for the better. Homosexuals are liars, many times, and do not want to change. They want to continue their lust for flesh, sex for pleasure, and are not ready or willing to stop this lifestyle.

Sin is an addiction. Liberals who promote free sex, sex outside of marriage, abortion, homosexual sex, child sex and worse, these people must be stopped. They must be condemned, and only should step through the doors of a TRULY CHRISTIAN CHURCH after they understand repentance and the wrongness of their ways. These people lead sad, miserable, unfulfilling lives. They need help. TRUE CHRISTIANS can, and do, help these people. But sometimes, this help is abused. And people take advantage of a TRUE CHRISTIAN'S GOOD CHARITY.

THIS IS MORE EVIL THAN EVIL! True Christians should never be taken advantage of by these sinful predators, that is even more evil than their original sins! The atheist religion and its atheistic religious following, are liars, and they want to CONVERT TRUE CHRISTIANS! This is even more evil, because it is deceptive AND encourages sin! It's twice the lie! That cannot be tolerated.

Judging this, is perfectly acceptable in the TRULY CHRISTIAN FAITH. It is perfectly acceptable for He, who is without Sin, as our LORD CHRIST was, to judge and judge well. Shunning is a good method of punishment. Sinners should be shunned, and excluded from society, who absolutely refuse to REPENT for their continued sinful lives. Repentance is the first step, recognizing the immorality of a sinner's life, is the first step. A man cannot change, unless he is willing, and thirsts for something higher than himself. That is GOD.

 

Liberals are fascists, and want the state government to dictate morality, liberal immorality that is. These zio-liberals hate TRUE CHRISTIANITY so much, that they want the state and federal powers to attack churches, TRUE CHRISTIANS, and TRULY CHRISTIAN FAMILIES. They hate, and absolutely cannot stand TRUE CHRISTIANS who are virtuous, proud, and moral. They hate to see a good family of GOD, with virgin daughters, a biological mother and father, with a strong sense of family. Liberals are anti-family, that is why they want homosexuals to marry.

Zionists also think it's a joke, a mockery of TRUE CHRISTIAN, to convince their liberal followers to promote gay sex and homosexual priests in churches. It's mostly a joke, for them. They hate everything that is serious, and worth defending in life. They hate morals, because they are the exact opposite of moral people.

 

Yes compeling other to accept homosexual marriage is not compelling your version of morality on them.

That is a complete misunderstanding of the position. Gays already have the same rights to marry someone of the opposite sex as everyone else. They Want a different Marriage right, that is the right to marry someone of the same sex.

Not by enough to matter your first clue is that only one state in the Union has voted for it. And almost every where else it has failed by margins of at least 55-45. If you don't seal our Southern border are the margins are almost certainly going to get bigger rather than smaller. And if this doesn't quit getting rammed down people's throats by Judicial fiat it will very quickly make things worse for gays than it currently is and you will willy nilly run the very real risk of making people like phelps a hero to more than just the few nitwits that attend his church.