Gallup Romney 52%, Obama 45%

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  1. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This kind of logical absurdity is amusing. According to you, the republican party is a minority party. Then you turn around and say that the independents voted for a loser, Kerry. How the hell does that add up in loserland?
    Majority party + independents should = win
    But you just said that minority party without independents = win.

    Not logical and totally absurd.
     
  2. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most other serious posters have Beevee on ignore. It's just a waste of time bothering to read that screed.
     
  3. Watchman

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    It will take a miracle for obummer NOT to get "re-selected." The LORD is in the business of miracles.

    I'm not particularly fond of political voting polls, especially with a corrupt voting system like the "electoral college."

    Short video on the absurdity and stupidity of the electoral college, a corrupt voting system.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skojvOueqJw

    Completely disfunctional system.

    It's NOT about race or color, it's about the Constitution, STUPID!!!
     
  4. Watchman

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    Before you guys throw something out there like, "THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE IS CONSTITUTIONAL, STUPID!!!"

    I was referring to race / color, and Constitution. Many play the race / color card when one opposes obama. "You don't like him because he's black." I don't like him because he's shredding the U.S. Constitution, and completely against EVERYTHING that is called American. Not just him, but many have, and other U.S. Presidents before him, like Bush Jr. and his fascist patriot act.

    I don't care if the POTUS is Native American, White, Black, Brown, Yellow, African, Hispanic, Asian, European...you'd better be a U.S. Citizen, better have more than enough proof, and you'd better leave the Constitution alone.

    Though the electoral college voting system is a horrible, corrupt system, it has proven to be detrimental, though Constitutional. Look at where we are as a Nation. Look at where and what the electoral college has brought U.S. to.

    Those that are unConstitutional(I should say against the Constitution), are many Senators and Representatives, that elect / select an unConstitutional, non-U.S. Citizen as President.

    This is why the United States is on Her knees because such corrupt politicians will not be fired and arrested for their treason and betrayal.

    It doesn't make any sense that if 99.9% or even 100% of U.S. Citizens vote for Romney, and the electoral college vote for obamayomama and he'd still win. That's bs.

    We truly are a Nation Divided.
     
  5. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah stupid, its a constitution that mandates the electoral college.
    What an absurd post.

    The Electoral college is in place to keep the politicians from ignoring lower population areas. Like Iowa and Tennessee. Even Colorado and Utah. Otherwise they would limit their campaigns to large metropolitan areas. I don't care if you don't get it. The very fact that you don't makes you irrelevant and ignorant.
     
  6. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll bet money you are a Paulista.
     
  7. Beevee

    Beevee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's heartbreaking to find that not every poster here believes the crap spewed out by GOP supporters, isn't it?

    Yet, you don't have me on ignore. Why is that?
     
  8. Watchman

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    That's freakin hilarious!!! :)

    And I love your signature.

    Well said, argument, theunbubba.

    In case you didn't understand...at one time, the "Electoral College" may have actually worked. As the Nation grew into the United States of America, politicians were getting more and more corrupt(natural order).

    We have socialists, fascists, communists, marxists, and globalists in both major parties. NOT ALL of them, but many, and the majority are Democrats. There are some in the Republican Party, too(I mean politicians).

    Their means to an end are basically the same, all working toward the same goal.

    This being the case, it makes perfect sense and is true that the "Electoral College" system is a broken system, and has become a corrupt system.

    It's all about power and money.

    Did you watch the short 6 - 7 minute video?

    Children understand the "Electoral College" Voting System better than we adults do.

    You should really watch the video!

    As far as being a Paulita...if you're referring to Ron Paul, why, yes, I like Ron Paul very much, and would have voted for him.

    He would've brought U.S. back to our Constitutional Republic.

    As far as this election(actually "Selection or Re-Selection)We're in a lose, lose situation. A lesser of two evils. Rapid destruction of the U.S. vs. a slower destruction of the U.S.
     
  9. Lil Mike

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    Yes I did post it. Keep trying.
     
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    I only have one poster on ignore and would prefer not to increase that number. I'll give him another chance.
     
  11. Lil Mike

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    No offense to the video; I'm sure it's a fine one with good production values, but as a general rule I don't waste time watching videos that are posted on forums that are supposed to provide the answers to whatever question or comment the poster makes. I learned my lesson with the ridiculous 9/11 videos. No proof, no explanation, no evidence; ever. So maybe you could summarize in a sentence or two what exactly about the electoral college system makes it "corrupt?"
     
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    I won't let you down, Sir!
     
  13. Watchman

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    I already did in an earlier post in this thread. Basically, that majority vote counts for nothing. 90 - 100% could vote for Romney, and the electoral college vote for obamayomama, and he'd win.

    Broken, corrupt system.

    You really need to watch this video. Kids make adults look like idiots. Kids understand that this "electoral college" is not fair, and a bad way of voting.
     
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    What's the matter with you? Is it so difficult to repost a question to the court jester?
     
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    Got this from another board but look at the trend compared to four years ago. Pretty telling indeed.

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    the real clincher is party ID. Since 2008 things have changed. In hard party ID the Democrats have dropped 4 points and Republicans have picked up 7 points. In leaners the Dems have dropped 8 and the GOP has picked up 7. http://www.gallup.com/poll/158399/2012-electorate-looks-like-2008.aspx

    Now here is the final nail in the coffin

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...abc-tracking-poll-romney-50-percent-obama-47/
     
  17. Not The Guardian

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    I'm honored!

    Aside from that, putting someone on ignore is the coward's way out.
     
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    Two things who cares what Gallup says its going to come down to what happens in a few states Obama takes say Ohio and Wisconsin and gets another bigger electoral state or two smaller ones its over, so I care what is going on in states. Its going to come down to a few everyone knows that. Popular votes don't win its who has the electoral votes and that is what matters.

    And thanks to Indiana's "pregnancy by rape is god's will" Republican that seat is now swinging to the Democrats the Senate seats are actually more important Romney without even the majority vote can't do much and I don't see them not doing what the House is doing to Obama. So who is president is of little importance if the Congress control is still split between the two parties now does it.
     
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    tkolter what you are ignoring is that it isn't 2008 and those state polls you are crowing about are weighted with 2008 turnout demographics. I am sure the internal polling has the Obama team in full panic mode. His campaign is exhibiting the classic signs of a failed campaign by simply rehashing the same old arguments that got them in trouble in the first place.
     
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    If the electorate has shifted 15 points as Gallup predicts, we are going to see a 320+ electoral vote victory for Romney.

    It's going to be very very very big.

    You can see a tinge of what's to come in the state polls. Most of them in say Ohio are using D+7 samples to weight their results, yet seeing Romney win independents by double digits.
     
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    I think it's going to be close, although I will give Romney credit. He gained momentum since the first debate.
     
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    I don't think it's going to be quite the landslide Gallup thinks it is.

    I have sort of a funny story on this. My step mom asked me what I thought about Ohio. So I told her what I thought about the samples and what the split was in 2008 and how Romney was actually doing given a more realistic election model. She replied, "That's the same thing John Boehner told me." I aksed "On TV?" "Oh no, I had lunch with him the other day." Hah, wtf?

    Anyway, my step mom, who is generally uninterested in politics, and a bunch of her friends got involved with a local guy running for the house and she sat with Boehner to talk election strategy at some fund raiser. She said he thinks Romney is about 3-4 points up in Ohio and has a solid shot at states like WI and PA. If you weigh the Ohio polls with +2-3 D advantage instead of the +7-9 in the polls, that's what you get.

    Also, I hate my step mom right now for that lol.
     
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    No; it's a permanent vacation from stupidity - and it's time to take a vacation from yours. Begone. *poof*
     
  24. tkolter

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    Again it may not matter if they don't take control of the Senate and that is looking less likely Indiana was a toss up now it isn't the Democratic candidate is up 7 points last poll of likely voters Romney will have to deal with a Senate that will stall anything he tries to do they don't like. If Obama gets in he still has to deal with a hostile House and perhaps an off chance a hostile Senate. So in either case nothing will get done.

    But since Obama had his people in the big swing states longer than Romney nursing the voting groups he just needs a technical majority to get the electors you know that just one vote over 50% and he gets them all. That is how it works in most states. So Romney may or may not be ahead but Obama just needs 270+ electors and its over and if the numbers are correct Romney needs to take more states than Obama and must take Ohio most likely. But like I said that is not the important fight the Senate is.
     
  25. Professor Peabody

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    How quickly they forget the shellacking they took just 2 years ago. The senate hasn't passed a budget in well over 1200 days, it doubtful they'll keep their majority there after that.
     

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