Israeli Air Force Attack Syria

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  1. SAUER

    SAUER New Member

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    you want to give some information about that?
     
  2. Tyrerik

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    Of course they can upgrade but they cannot do it at the same rate the West can. This was one of the reasons why the Soviet Union collapsed. Well obviously that is not to say it isn't a problem when a regime like North Korea makes a nuke however thanks to geography the threat is mostly on Japan and South Korea and we are not back to cold war MAD. Its not a matter of who will be the next member of the nuke family but is the technological gap shrinking and I see no evidence of that. At the same time the perception is that the nuclear threat is receding despite the growth of the nuclear club. There's been a shift from burrowing bunkers to antimissile shields. At the same time the West is growing so that the world is shrinking and becoming more interdependant. One aspect of this is a growing pooling of resources for example ITER leaving the potential for a breakaway with small fry like North Korea and Iran in a technological backwater. So perhaps instead you shoul dbe asking whop will be the next to jump onboard the international train instead of the nuclear club?
     
  3. moon

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    :mrgreen: " Collapsed " :mrgreen: Gorbachev dismantled the USSR . It was a brilliant plan economically and politically. It obviously hasn't registered with you that it's now the US of AIPAC which is broke and considered to be the ogre of the world, not the Russian Federation. Gorbachev was, in my opinion, the greatest political leader of the 20th century. Western leaders have been mental dwarves by comparison. He almost single-handedly prevented WW3.
    ( I apologise in advance to any dwarf members here. It's just a figure of speech )
     
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    The chatter of chimpanzees that is international law means that any weak country can screw any strong one as hard as it wants because fighting back would be unfair.
    But some people actually like to be pushed around. That is the sickness among us that we should worry about. "It feels so good having my face pushed into the sand! Do it again and again and again!"
     
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    now, I don't know the details.. BUT if it is the case that this was something planned to be given to terrorists to be used against Israel I can only congratulate our jewish friends on their common sense. Besides, the Israelis have a right to be paranoid when there's only arabs as nieghbors, and even more so when there's islamist revolutions on their borders. Of course they want to make the situation favourable to them.
     
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    OK, sharpen your pencils and pay attention;

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  7. Tyrerik

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    Off topic posts get deleted on this thread so why don't you start a new thread about your hero? I wont waste any more effort on a post which will likely be deleted.
     
  8. moon

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    It's not an off-topic post. It serves to correct the poster who introduced a common error into the discussion. As such it serves the topic well.
    Looking back it's actually closer to the topic than your own .
     
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    You sir are a hoot... you have nothing to say, you try to be a MOD for everyone...
    Why don't you go have a stroll in the local park and breathe some fresh air? hmmmm
     
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    Then why didn't the US bomb Russia during the Cuban crisis.
    Why was the USSR not permitted to invade US airspace when the 'Murkans stationed rockets in Turkey on its border?
    Why was Argentina not permitted to bomb Valparaiso when the Chileans acquired submarines?
    Why did the US not nuke the North Korean facilities.

    I will tell you why. Because those countries have respect for international protocol.

    Now .... what does that say about Israel. Before you cite "DEFENCE" let's look at the latest Time Magazine quote [click for source):
    Get this one .... it is the core of the conflict ... and I would love to see the Apologists challenge 'Time':
    In other words, good forum participants, the murderous invader intent on achieving Eretz Yisrael (which includes Lebanese territory - Ben-Gurion, 1956) wants to be able to violate sovereignty, invade, maintain its bullying advantage, slaughter and massacre without fear of the victims having weapons of sufficient power to disturb the cozy dominance.

    And when that power stranglehold is even slightly challenged; when the disgusting right to main and slaughter seems to be under some threat, the Zionists scream "DEFENCE"!!!! Why is Islam becoming more and more militant towards those who support this nauseating game?
     
  11. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    You know, I'm actually so biased against muslims that I feel positive about the idea that Israel should annex the land between the nile and euphrates (or tigris, whichever is closest) to create greater israel. Even though I know it's wrong. it would be kinda neat no?

    Edit: no wait, make that arab muslims
     
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    No.

    10char
     
  13. Jeannette

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    Because the Soviets backed down. Had they not, we might have started WWIII and everything would have gone POOF.:salute::bomb: :tombstone:
     
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    I can't wait for us to quit being dependent on Oil, then the Arabs and Persians can finally die out. America the and the Free world Subsidize the Arabs and Persians through buying there oil, once that drys up then byebye money and investment.
     
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    The Arabs and Persians have been around long before the discovery the oil; they're not going anywhere. Furthermore, you're obviously unaware of the investments that have been/will be made by all that oil wealth. So yes, they're going to be haunting you for the rest of your life. :)
     
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    Most Arabs and Persians don't get a share of the oil wealth and don't invest it. The ones who do invest and do it successfully will all be Westernised by the time oil loses its value or runs out.
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/other-off-topic-chat/286879-language-corrections.html
     
  18. Jeannette

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    I'm not biased again Muslims, whether they be Arab, Turks, Pakis, etc., but I detest Islam. If it was a true faith and not a nationalistic political movement under the guise of faith, they wouldn't be so destructive to themselves as well as to others. When you look at Muislims prostrating :worship: en masse, and all in conformity to one another, one can only wonder what kind of a cultic god they worship. One thing is for certain, whatever god it is, he certainly is not instilling peace :peace: and love :heart: in their hearts or they wouldn't be coming out of mosques screaming death :cynic: to anyone.


     
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    I'm referring to states- particularly the Gulf. To what extent will they be Westernized?
     
  20. Jeannette

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    Tell me about it? :frustrated:
     
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    Hezbollah took over a nation that was formed by France, so that the original Christian inhabitants could have their own land and not be under the Arab occupiers. Lebanon was the most prosperous nation in the Middle East because most were Christians and had brains. It was not from oil wealth. It was this Christian progressivness which enlightened them to be friends with Israel, that way they could all live well.

    Lebanon, being predominantly Christian and not Islamic, could also not in good conscience mistreat the Palestinians, and kick them out the way they were kicked out of Jordan... not to mention the other Islamic countries they entered. Of course all this this bodes the question, why aren't the Muslims willing to help their own people? Because individual lives are inconsequential to their god of self love, hatred and revenge, and who must always be triumphant over everything and everyone.

    ...And now you know why Muslims can't let go of Israel and Jerusalem. :wall:
     
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    They haven't been building their infrastructure I can tell you that. A few elite Arabs and Persians will get rich yes, but the general citizen won't and will be left with just their religion.
     
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    You might recall that Hezbollah defeated the IDF and threw the Israelis out of Lebanon. They're not that awesome.http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/12/16/us-israel-lebanon-idUSTRE6BF20L20101216
     
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    WWIII would never have occurred at that time, although I'm not sure about now, since the U.S. is losing its hegemony with its economic troubles and other nations are trying to establish themselves as regional powers. If you lived during that era, you would know that Gorbachev was left with no choice but to dissolve the USSR. Pres. Reagan, instead of lessening the arms race, began extending it so that the USSR could not keep up without going broke.

    His actions drove the Europeans crazy, especially the Germans because they couldn't understand Reagan's actions and thought he was a war monger. The Germans knew that they would get the brunt of a nuclear war and so there were riots everywhere. Reagan though had played his bluff and it worked. The USSR couldn't keep up and collapsed. Reagan also took the U.S. out of a severe recession and started the prosperity that we and the world has had for thirty years.

    The man was a God send. What a pity he's not around today...but then again, maybe we don't deserve him. :confuse:
     
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    The man was a traitor who sold arms to terrorists and damaged your country and its reputation more than you think. Iran-Contra was a global scandal. You're right, nobody deserves a traitor as president.
     
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