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Strawman. I was making fun of you keeping files of what members of this site say.

I do not keep files on what members of this site say.

I didn't say he said that.

Which was Clinton's goal in his homeownership programs. Why are you faulting Bush for continuing Clinton's dream (and policies) of getting "underrepresented borrowers" into home loans?

Bush wasn't President when unemployment went over 10%. Obama was. Witness the folly in your thinking and confront your double standard.

Clinton bragged about the same thing. In fact, it was one of his goals to increase minority home ownership to the highest levels ever. It's hilarious how you demonize Bush for doing the same thing as your hero Clinton.

It refutes one of your arguments.

 

I think bleeding heart Democrats and some Republicans caused the housing bubble that led to the banking meltdown.

But it all began with Jesse Jackson complaining about "redlining" in black neighborhoods.

 

Feel free to substantively refute any of those sources. Your worthless say-so and dismissal is not convincing, but I realize it's the only thing you offer.

 

Yep, and I like having a consistent position on this, unlike Iriemon who has to torture logic to make the homeownership programs a good thing when a Democrat is in office, and the ZOMG RUINED THE WHOLE ECONOMY! when a Republican is in office.

 

There is nothing there to refute. They simply don't make your case.
Can't you see that?
All you've done is show that Clinton promoted home ownership, thats it.
Big deal, every President does that for good reason.

Now show that Clinton caused the housing melt down like you claim or admit you are nothing more than partisan hack we all know you to be.
Simple.

 

Kind of like when you wrote the post claiming I was lying.

Funny, you cited back to a post of mine to make your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claim that I have a record of lying.

Because he didn't.

Bush didn't just continue Clinton's programs, he expanded them. And Bush was president when housing prices blew up to their absurd levels and then started crashing down.

The 10% was a consequence of the housing bubble collapse.

I don't recall that. Clinton wasn't president when the housing bubble blew up to its absurd levels. Bush was and the Republicans controlled the Government. That is a fact.

 

You and I are more rational about the causes of these problems than doctrinaire libs who only want to avoid blaming their side.

 

You are completely wrong of course but hey show us the legislation that your "bleeding heart Democrats" passed that caused it.
I'd love to see it.

 

He had every reason to.

 

Not really partisanship with no evidence is not 'rational', it's just partisan.
Blindly blaming the other side with nothing to back it up is the weaklings way out.

 

Every one of those sources supports my argument. I know you are mentally incapable of responding to those with evidence of your own, but can you try? Just for laughs?

I'd be embarrassed if I had people calling me out on substanceless replies like many people have done to you, yet you keep posting. I guess some people have no shame.

 

Tortured logic is blaming Clinton who wasn't even in office for an event that occurred while Bush and the Republicans controlled the government.

 

Consistently wrong is still wrong.

 

How do you figure they make your case?
You claim Clinton caused the meltdown, now you link to some articles that Clinton promoted home ownership. Are you saying home ownership itself caused the meltdown?
Explain that one.

OK I think we are getting to it now, as always when beaten down the right goes to the personal attacks, as is evidence in this thread.
As always the attacks will continue and get worse then typically the right runs away.
I see where this is headed.

Now back up your claims.

 

Search feature.

Search feature. Not bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

Which is probably why I didn't say that he did.

Repetitive.

Irrelevant. Your argument is that if a President isn't in office when the consequences of his policy takes place, it's not his fault. I disagree with that. Actions have consequences, and they are not always immediate.

Sure you do.

Repetitive.

 

Which explains why you constantly blame the right and Republicans with nothing to back it up. And, as this thread shows, even when you request evidence from the other side, you are incapable of responding with more than weak dismissals.

Don't be too surprised when you get put on ignore and stop receiving responses to your childish comebacks. People expect a certain amount of intelligence from even the trolls on this site.

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Tortured logic is blaming Bush who wasn't even in office for an event that occurred while Obama and the Democrats controlled the Government.

 

Read the articles. I know you haven't, because you wouldn't still be this ignorant if you had.

Like another poster already told you, you're not worth my time. Refute the arguments I've made with evidence of your own, not just a weak dismissal, or go troll another thread.

 

Yes, and the eventual result was the financial meltdown of 2007.

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Blindly blaming the other side is what libs are guilty of doing.

 

Heh heh

Which is why I asked who said "Homeownership is a right" as you claimed when referring to Clinton. Which you dodged. I figured it was something you made up.

I made no such blanket statement. But in fact, Clinton was not president when the housing bubble blew up to its absurd height and started crashing, 6 years after Clinton was in office. To blame him for and event that occurred 5-6 years after he was out of office and the Republicans controlled the government is the height of partisanship.

Where is the bragging?

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Baseless nonsense.

LOL, in the very same post you blindly blamed the other side. Classic.

 

I didn't blame Bush, but that is a fair implication of the fact the he was president with his party in control of Congress during the housing bubble.

But it is not tortured logic at all. There is a very logical nexus between the housing bubble blowing up, crashing in 2006-08, causing the banking crises and mortgage crises and the economic fall-out which directly led to unemployment reaching 10% in the first year Obama was in office.

 

Not at all.

Jesse Jackson was a pest that both Dems and Repubs could do without but were afraid to ignore.

So they pushed banks to make unsound loans to minorities which in turn led the phony derivatives that had no value and finally to the meltdown of 2007.

 

Hmmm.. do you attribute anything negitive to your messiah? Or does Obama simply not have the same power that every other president did and thats why you can blame them (bush) during stuff that goes on during their presidency but not obama for stuff that goes on during his? Will you ever blame Obama for the sky rocketing debt or are you going to find blame elsewhere each time?

 

Baseless nonsense.

 

All you do is blame bush, or try and pretend obama is some kinda Ronald Reagan....

Its not funny anymore, its getting pretty pathetic

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Youre absolutely correct, as usual....

To democrats, Responsibility is a 4 letter word....

 

That's a great reply.

You sure convinced me.