Murderous rampage in Switzerland today

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  1. Liebe

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    At least three people were killed and several more were wounded in a shooting at a factory near the Swiss city of Lucerne, police said on Wednesday. The incident occurred at the Kronospan wood processing plant in the town of Menznau.


    By News Wires (text)


    A shooting at a wood-processing company in central Switzerland on Wednesday left three people dead and seven injured, some of them seriously, prosecutors said.

    The shooting occurred shortly after 9 a.m. at the premises of Kronospan, a company in the small town of Menznau, west of Lucerne.

    “There were three dead and seven injured, some of them seriously injured,” prosecutors’ spokesman Simon Kopp told Swiss newspaper Blick. He said the assailant was among the dead.

    The local Neue Luzerner Zeitung newspaper cited a witness as saying that the shooter opened fire in the company canteen. It was not immediately clear who the shooter was, what the motive might have been or whether the assailant worked for the company.

    According to the local town council, Kronospan has some 450 employees.

    Gun ownership is widespread in Switzerland, thanks to liberal regulation -- a 2012 referendum to tighten controls failed -- and a long-standing tradition for men to keep their military rifles after completing compulsory military service.

    An estimated 2.3 million firearms are owned by the country’s 8 million people.

    But gun crime is relatively rare, with just 24 gun killings in 2009, which works out to a rate of about 0.3 per 100,000 inhabitants. The U.S. rate that year was about 11 times higher.

    Still, there have been several high-profile incidents over the years, including the killing of 14 people at a city council meeting in Zug, not far from Lucerne, in 2001.

    Last month a 33-year-old man killed three women and wounded two men in a southern Swiss village.

    (AFP)
    http://www.france24.com/en/20130227-deadly-shooting-swiss-factory-near-lucerne

    So it seems that murderous rampages are also known to Europe and are not a US phenomenon only.

    Do we cut back on weapons? I don't think that that will ever really help.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Must be a real shocker for the ever-neutral, peace loving Swiss...
     
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    So much for that huh? :eyepopping:
     
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    There is bound to be an Islamic uprising in the Western world and I know the Ottomans always fooled the Christians into handing in their weapons before killing them. So it's not a bad Idea to hold on to one's weapons for who knows what the future brings. :hiding:
     
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    They are peace loving only because it's a mountainous country and not easy to fight in. I think the Swiss were considered the most courageous and most loyal soldiers in Europe. :confuse:
     
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    Certainly, but at a much lower frequency and virulence than slaughter in the US of AIPAC.



    Still, it does seem surprising that you would choose to use gun slaughter in one place to promote weapons in another;

    Liebe;
    Of course not. How could removing guns ever prevent them being used ? Stupid suggestion. :mrgreen:
     
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    Yes it is stupid because as you say there are very few murders despite the fact that the Swiss are very armed.
     
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    The Swiss have a high standard of living, and a low rate of poverty, helped in no small part by their strict immigration policies. If they opened their borders wide open to all the poverty and criminal elements from the outside, they would no doubt see a sharp rise in gun crime, along with every other type of crime.

    Perhaps they recognise, wisely, that to secure their gun rights, they have to also secure their borders.
     
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    We look forward very much to the US of AIPAC securing its borders........in order to prevent gun-happy sociopaths from getting out.

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    You are probably confusing the Swiss army with the Swiss guard. The only thing the Swiss are loyal to is their banks where any scumbag, any dictator, any mass murder (including the Nazis and Hitler) can safely keep their stolen loot....On a second thought it's safe until the Swiss bankers decide to steal it.
     
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    Kind of vague reporting. In the USA, that is code for a guy named Muhammad or Leroy committed the crime.
     
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    No, nothing one can do. Innocent people get shot and killed all the time....

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    JERUSALEM (AP) — Clashes erupted Saturday in the West Bank, with Jewish settlers shooting two Palestinian demonstrators in the northern village of Kusra,
     
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    You are forgetting the Jews, who hid all their stolen loot there as well, or at least they claimed they had billions stashed away there.
     
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    Aren't some of those bankers Jewish? :confuse:
     
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    In Switzerland? No, of course not, they are Swiss bankers, it's a very closed society. They do have billions dollars worth of stolen Jewish property hidden in their underground vaults though, the property of Jews who trusted them with their valuables (money, art, etc) and later perished in the Holocaust, the property of Jews looted by the Nazis during WWII and hidden in their vaults... They got to keep most of it. Why do you think Germany did not conquer Switzerland? Switzerland was Hitler's bank, financing his war machine, processing all German business transactions, accepting Nazis' loot and making trillions in the process...Did I mention that they were arresting Jewish refugees and returning them back to Germany?

    PS Nice ski resorts.
     
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    LOL, good job jazz but can't you get us a live Swiss Jew banker, I bet there has to be one or two. LOL This dude was not even Swiss, born in Lebanon, nationality - Brazilian. He did have a bank and residence in Switzerland although his major banking interests were in the US - Republic National Bank.

    He was a major philanthropist during his lifetime, and he left his wealth to the Edmond J. Safra Philanthropic Foundation which supports hundreds of projects in fifty countries around the world in the areas of education, science and medicine, religion, culture and humanitarian assistance.

    During his lifetime Safra donated millions of dollars to provide treatment for the sick. Hospitals across the globe – the Hôpital Cantonal de Genève, the Hôpitaux de France, and countless institutions in the United States, for example – benefited from his generosity. He was one of the founders of Albert Einstein Hospital in São Paulo, today one of South America’s major medical centers. In Israel, he initiated the construction of the Edmond and Lily Safra Children’s Hospital at Tel Hashomer.

    In the area of medical research, he was a significant supporter of the Institut Pasteur in Paris, the Weizmann Institute in Israel, the Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson's Research and a number of different centers studying specific diseases in France, the United States, and elsewhere around the world. He created the Edmond and Lily Safra Chair in Breast Cancer Research at Tulane University.

    Safra believed higher education was essential for every young person in the modern world, even though he himself never attended university. He provided university scholarship funds for tens of thousands of needy students through the International Sephardic Education Foundation (ISEF), an institution he and his wife established in 1977 to support deserving Israeli students.

    Safra also helped universities directly, often through the support of chairs and particular programs (such as Judaic Studies). For example, at Harvard University he endowed the Jacob E. Safra Professorship of Jewish History and Sephardic Civilization, and he gave significant funds for the Robert F. Kennedy Visiting Professorship in Latin American Studies. At the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School of Business, he created the Jacob E. Safra Professorship of International Banking and the Safra Business Research Center.

    He was a significant benefactor of the American University of Beirut, and he was awarded Honorary Doctorates by the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Yeshiva University (where he established the Jacob E. Safra Institute of Sephardic Studies) for his ongoing support of those institutions.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmond_Safra


    Damn JOOZ, who do they think they are? :(
     
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    How did he get so rich? How do so many Jews get so rich? It is legendary!!
     
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    Indeed. How does such a disproportionate number of jews win Nobel Prizes, how does such a disproportionate number of jews graduate from the Ivy league, become politicians, members of governments, entrepreneurs, how do so many jews open extremely successful businesses, how do they become outstanding engineers, doctors, writers, lawyers, stand up comedians...?

    We know that it can't possibly have anything to do with their work ethics, drive, famil values, determination, education, intelligence, can it? Which of course leaves only one option - it's their greed and the world-wide Jewish conspiracy, what else? Case closed!
     
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    Hahaha... I like your sarcastic humor, Borat.
    Well, in this case I read up on it afterwards. The man came already from a rich banker family. He started trading at the age of 16!!
    I don't mind rich people as long as they didn't steal from or rip off others, which lots of people do, not just the Madoffs of this world.

    One thing I have observed: Jews stick together, generally, and work for one cause: Money and power. AND they do their best to provide education for their children, so they can make it to the top positions in banking and politics. Of course, this is not always the case, but it is quite noticeable, if one checks who is who in society.

    O.k., case closed now!
     
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    Thanks :)

    And you work for what? Paycheck and promotions (money and power) I suppose. Have I missed anything? BTW Orthodox Jews may indeed stick together, secular Jews integrate in societies where they live. You can find jews in every american state, any part of australia, any european city. And even if/when they do stick together, how is it different from Chinatowns, Indian communities, Pakistani communities, Russian communities, Mexican communitites etc? Do you have to pick on Jews?

    Of course you can expand it by including top positions in medicine, engineering, financing, law, science etc...Jews provide education for their children to make sure their children are the best they can be...I called that work ethics and family values in my previous post. Somehow in your post it sounds much worse than that :)
     
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    I know everything you wrote because I know the Jewish mind set, and its the same one that has gotten you people in trouble throughout the centuries. The Swiss didn't want the Jews entering en masse, the same way Israel doesn't want Arabs and Africans entering en masse into Israel. Of course it was detrimental to the Jews then, but it would be detrimental to those Arabs and Africans now as well. ..especially if they are being persecuted in the lands they are living in. So a little understanding here.

    As for Germany not conquering Switzerland, how could they? The Turks were never able to conquer Montenegro, and parts of Greece like the Mani because they were all mountains, so why would Germany attack Switzerland. As for working with Germany, I'm sure they did in the same way Israel has worked with Turkey for so many years. ..and believe me, it has a history that was equally, if not more so viscious.

    Right or wrong, it was a matter of survival for the Swiss. No body wants war, nor do they want extinction. Had they been attacked by Germany as Serbia and Greece were, then it would have been a different story. I'm sure then they would have fought Nazi Germany tooth and nails.

    As for the booty being held in Swiss banks, well what about the money which has been stolen from Russia under Yeltsin? Unless I'm mistaken, aren't many of these Jews (and their booty), now living in Israel? Look I know that the Jews can be the most generous people in the world to those who they consider their friends, but you can't keep on pressuring people without getting some sort of back lash. All these law suits and grievances for monetary compensation from the Europeans has given rise to anti semitism in Europe and it is not beneficial to Israel, who as we know is in a very precarious position today.
     
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    Killer is Albanian immigrant, no surprise here. They are doing that everywhere they go. Good luck with them :)


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