Socialism in a nutshell

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  1. montra

    montra New Member

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    The Venezuelan version of Nikolai Lenin...
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    Chavez body to be put on permanent display
    Mar 7,`13 -- Hugo Chavez's body will be preserved and forever displayed inside a glass tomb at a military museum not far from the presidential palace from which he ruled for 14 years, his successor announced Thursday in a Caribbean version of the treatment given Communist revolutionary leaders such as Lenin, Mao and Ho Chi Minh.
     
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    source : Criminal Justice International Associates (CJIA)

    again the Miami based "org"
     
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    Ehh. Socialism is simply moving the means of production to the hands of the proletariat, it has nothing to do with the accumulation of wealth by leaders. That's an unfortunate addition, but it's not a core part of the theory.

    Hell, you could have socialism just fine within a proper libertarian society given people simply consented first. Start your own private socialist commune all you like, many have already.
     
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    Both socialism and capitalism suffer from the very same lies. In the USA supposidly anyone can make it big, with hard work and guts, yet they have the lowest social mobility in the Western world, meaning if you're born into poverty, more than likely you'll die there and vice-versa. yet you are told the opposite. You are lied to.

    It's the same lie as people in socialist countries are sold, the difference is that they believe your lie and you seem to believe it also.
     
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    What do you mean by the lowest social mobility?
     
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    Socialism in a nutshell is political control by the vast working-class majority, leading to the elimination of capitalist dictatorships worldwide and the end of states. What has the death of this probably-well-meaning gentleman in Venezuela to do with the matter?
     
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    Socialism at its best is good for lazy people but bad for the most productive.
     
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    No -slavery to fat capitalists is the religion of peasant clowns who hate everyone and want to spite them for ever being happy, as you know. The US is the grovelling centre of the world, with more people in prison than any country in history. So much for capitalist 'freedom'!
     
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    That's a lot of hot air about nothing.

    Getting back to the topic, socialism is good for lazy people and bad for those who want to work hard and make a better life for themselves.
     
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    “Кто не работает, тот не ест.” (“He who does not work, does not eat.”) - Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
     
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    The ability to move from one social class to another. The US has the second lowest ranking of the West, following the UK.
     
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    Propounding a nutshell perspective can betray where you're coming from.


    All theoretical economic systems are significantly impacted and compromised to varying degrees by attempted application.
     
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    What's the source?
     
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    What's the source?
     
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    Lenin may have said it too but he didn't say it first.

    And I don't think he was talking about lazy Obama voters in the hood.

    But rather he was engaging in the usual anti-rich class warfare that defines the leftist mentality.
     
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    The reality is that democratic socialism is enriching the politicians and their crony capitalist allies, while bankrupting the state and the average taxpayer.

    It's a ponzi scheme that has forced leaders to import third world immigrants in order to add new victims to the scam. They will however lead to political instability

    especially in the case of Islam (a culture, religion, legal, and political xenophobic system all rolled into one). Also, if the third world immigrants simply go on the generous public dole and have large families, it will collapse the ponzi scheme even more quickly.
     
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    We have a lot of dumb Obama voters in America who simply refuse to try to help themselves.

    But in terms of opportunity few countries offer more than America for those who are smart and willing to work hard.
     
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    full article HERE

    when policies are leading people to unemployment you have no right calling them lazy.
     
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    Google it.

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    The statistics have been this way for a very long time. The reality is that it is "possible" but highly "improbable" that you will be able to work your way out of poverty, in the most capitalistic countries on the planet. It was possible and probable, now it is not.
     
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    Well, I guess the question is: 'Are poor people better or worse off now'. It seems like they are better off, which is a compelling argument.
     
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    Socialism with proper libertarian society is like capitalism without private property rights....
     
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    :eekeyes:Been wondering how much Ubama has stashed away of the taxpayers money since 2008. Wonder if he fits in with them. Could be.
     
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    :alcoholic:We know that. Thats what happened in 2008. And its still going.
     
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    That's what I figured. More socialist propaganda vomited by the Left.
     

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