Any Obama supporters who support drone strikes?

Are there any Obama supporters that condone Obama's grab for power?

Do you see Obama's desires for illegal drone strikes as a violation of human rights?

Do you see Obama's desires to assassinate American citizens to be unconstitutional?

What if Bush had pursued the same tyrannical power?

 

Either no one has the balls to condemn his actions or no one has the balls to somehow justify them.

 

Both. They are pure hypocrites.

 

I voted for Gary Johnson this time around, but I support drone strikes in Pakistan to a certain extent.

I think we've seen enough evidence that there is a lot of collateral involved, but then again, it's hard not to use the drone strategy given the situation.

Currently, the Taliban is doing raids in remote areas of Afghanistan and crossing back and forth along the Pakistan border. It's clear that they are receiving local support from the villages targeted by drones.

In many ways, this is like the situation we faced in Vietnam where villages harbored the enemy. Sometimes it was done voluntarily. Other times, it was done from coercion.

Either way, asymmetrical warfare is unfortunately very high on civilian casualties.

At the same time, our rules of engagement are rather odd. We put more restrictions on soldiers than we do drones.

Official policy essentially gives drone strikes a lot of latitude in what is acceptable, while soldiers aren't even allowed to fire at someone until they are being fired at in most cases -- even if the person is pointing a gun at them.

So, it's kind of a weird contradiction.

Either way, the best move is just getting out of Afghanistan at this point. Until then, drone strikes are likely to continue, because it's one of the easier ways to target the Taliban.

 

Given a choice between destroying a country the way Duh-bya did with oil rich Iraq vs. using drones to take out Saddam, his sons, and selected terrorists I'd say we're on the edge of some exciting new technology. It's just a matter of how its used. And just as long as the technology doesn't become self-aware.

When the 1st Terminator movie came out I thought the machines were the bad guys. But after President Duh-bya I could kind of see their point by the time the 3rd one came out.

 

Don't forget the legal authority to murder US citizens without trial or oversight.

 

America is a one party state. get used to it

 

I guess you missed the memo where the White House said that ISN'T legal. But, to quote every conservative in the country several years ago, "If you aren't doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about."

If only conservatives were as worried about the Supreme Court doing to our voting laws what they did to our economy with their deregulation.

 

IF Bush had pursued the same tyrannical power there would be a hue and cry across the land to impeach him. People and the main stream media would be calling for his head on a platter. He would be villified and practically crucified! Obama? Not a peep out of anyone! (And for the record...I did NOT like Bush when he was in office but I am beginning to appreciate his years now that we have obumble in office!)

 

Drones supporting drone strikes..the irony...the shame!

 

LOL...Wolverine is not a conservative, on most things he is probably more liberal that you. On this topic, he is DEFINITELY more liberal that you.

That said, why would anyone believe anything this administration says?

 

The Taliban are receiving support from the United States! By this argument Obama needs to order a drone strike against himself!

 

Bush did though! He had drone strike programs all the same. Just not as many in frequency. To compensate for that, shock and awe against Baghdad was like more casualties than all of Obama's drone strikes put together, all at once. Plus he had an elaborate torture network. I can't see how torturing someone to death is any better than blowing them up with a missile from the sky.

 

Except no one was ever tortured to death. And Obama is still doing rendition, gitmo is still open, etc etc etc...

 

Oh, but the bill was still passed and the tyrant still seeks the authority.

 

The use of technology in place of people is a depersonalising process, it becomes easier to push those kinds of boundaries when there's less human involvement.

 

Drone strikes anywhere in the world are wrong.

A humans on the planet deserve the same respect from the US governemnt that US citizens get. We are all people.

 

Why 'doubt', instead of checking for the truth?

The attacks on 'this administration' have reached the level of 'incredible'.

 

Don't tell me you lost you mind too and believe that the drone program has no oversight?

 

Because just like Bush before him, Clinton before him and Bush I before him what the administration says doesn't usually pan out as truth. That is why

 

Well then, if you know/believe that... then seek the truth. There are no perfect human beings, yet we must elect 'someone'.

Politics is what it is (though I wish that it was something different).

 

Killing is killing. There is no difference pushing a button on a screen and pulling the trigger on a gun.

 

Err, yeah, there is and I know first hand.
When someone points their gun towards you or shoots at you you know he is a bad guy/woman/child.... when you view him/her/kid through a long range lens without doing ID on them all, you don't know for sure who you are killing. Still, I trust my fellow soldiers in this fight against terrorist scum and have to assume they are as ethical as me.

 

Like the soldiers urinating on dead bodies?

 

You'll have to explain this one.