where as monotheism is god exists because and was able and wiling to make us because not a lot better or more believable
Like a lot of jokes, it is both amusing and completely untrue. (BTW, when I say 'completely', I'm not exaggerating. There isn't a word in there that is remotely accurate)
And this guy seriously wonders why his threads fill up with responses from atheists while very few Christians rush in to support him. If I were a Christian, I wouldn't want to associate myself with this kind of thread, either. Much like how I don't associate myself with threads started by a particular atheist on this board.
Well I had you on ignore, but I peeked at your post to see if you've stopped being obnoxious. The answer is "no" so I'm putting you back on ignore. And since you hate my threads so much I invite you to do the same to me.
Lacking a belief in how the universe started and how we got here is fine, but you shouldn't act so damn sure of yourself when you have no alternative theories.
The thing is, you can't say "I know there isn't a God." The best thing you can say is, "I don't know if there is a God." And even that is iffy, because the universe is here and there is no way it got here by itself.
Our you could be intellectually honest and show where an atheist has claimed that "nothing" ever existed. - - - Updated - - - Why can't the universe have always existed in one form or another?
Atheism is a lack of belief in a deity. It has (*)(*)(*)(*) all to do with any theories about how the universe got here.
That is proven by science. The universe is 13.7 billion years old. What was here before that? The question makes no sense because there was no "here" here before 13.7 billion years ago. Time and space has limits on both the past and the future. We live in a closed system.
Right, because you don't know. You reject all explanations for how the universe got here, but you have no theory of your own. That's not a very scientific way to analyze a problem, to complete avoid answering it. If you reject the Judeo/Christian God, that's fine. But if that's the case you should be a deist, because atheism makes no sense at all.
That is a question you should ask astronomers. They say the universe is 13.7 billion years old. That is not religious dogma, that is scientific fact.
Negative. The Big Bang is 13.7 billion years old. We have zero evidence that the Big Bang caused the universe to exist or that it created matter and energy. The Big Bang only expanded the universe into the form that we know it now according to the evidence that exists. There is no reason the universe couldn't have existed in another form prior to the Big Bang. In fact, the Law of Conservation of Matter and Energy supports the idea that the universe has always existed.
Atheism is not a positive belief system. It has one single data point: lack of belief in a deity. Completely independent of my beliefs on any other topic, so long as I continue to not believe in a deity, the only logical thing I can be is an atheist.
Atheism (mine anyway) The belief that something was ther before nothing was there...but I simply do not know what it was. Whatever it was be came something amazing and complex in time. Billions of yers and evolution somehow led to self replication in an eary cell. Biilions of years later shiat happened, stuff combined , things resulted. Evolution will always progress...this is almost a definition. We seem to be the reult of mammals surviving tha which ended the dinosuars you so easily make fun of.
But what DRIVES evolution? What gives life forms the URGE TO SURVIVE? Why doesn't every living creature just LAY DOWN AND DIE? Wouldn't that just be a lot of easier?
god just was vs universe just was hmm well at least we know the universe exists - - - Updated - - - how do you know their is no way it got hear by itself best you can do is say you don't know how it got hear
any critter that did that would not survive to pass on its genes those that acted in such a way that they did are the ones who survived and reproduced no god needed
